From: Dave Edelman (dedelman@iname.com)
Date: Tue Apr 09 2002 - 21:46:53 CDT
Laura,
I am hoping that I will finally get past the technological hurdles and
actually post this to the list :)
In 1992, I was an advisor on trek 10, which is now called 5. It was my
first backcountry experience at Philmont and it was fantastic. I've been
back to Philmont three more times and each successive trek was higher up on
the "food-chain" but this trek is the one for program. This year I will be
returning with a crew that will have two advisors who were youth on that
original outing in 1992. In fact, one was my crew leader, I am happy to say
that the crew selected trek 5.
As others have commented, the trek has the double layover and it is an
excellent idea to schedule a morning climb at Cito. Coming down from Mt.
Philips is a long gentle run and it is well worth doing lunch and program at
Cyphers Mine. Just remember that this may slip your schedule to the point
that you hit the early afternoon thunderboomer. In our case, we took refuge
on the porch of the (then closed) Hunting Lodge. If you have to, you can
most likely get part of your crew done with climbing at Cito, and take that
part of the crew, with appropriate adult leadership, to do the food pickup.
I'm not sure that this is still the case, but my notes show that the
conservation project was done at Beaubien and it was trail construction.
I urge you to do the plane wreck though I do remember that some of the crew
had to be motivated a bit since they had sleep firmly on their minds :(
The one disquieting note was on our way up Philips, we were hiking with a
sister crew from our council and they were about ten minutes in the lead. We
unexpectedly overtook them sitting down at a pack break. When we asked what
was up, they told us that "this was it, we were at the top." In fact what
had happened was a crew on its way down had played a trick on them and they
fell for it. This happened one other time in 1997 when four or five crews
were turned around to Clarks Fork when they had almost made Shaffer's Pass
'cause some misbegotten crew with at least the tacit approval of their
advisors informed everyone that this was the wrong trail. I have done four
treks and I can count the number of dimwitted crews who pulled stunts like
this on the fingers of one hand and still have a spare finger to flip them
the bird.
Climbing the Tooth of Time is special any time of the day; coming down can
be a bit of a trick, one of the crews that climbed up with us actually lost
a member in 2000. He just kept on going down 'til he found a house in the
valley and called for help. Stay to the left on the way down :)
Tooth Ridge Camp is a great place for a final reflection and possibly a
campfire. If so keep it small and clean it up. Invite your sister crew if it
appropriate and maybe even some crews who just happen to be there with you.
Over the years we have done reflections, thorns and roses and moments of
silent meditation. We have always taken a fair bit of time on our way into
base camp to sit and each of us talk about what we did and what we
accomplished.
Have a great time, watch the youth as they grow magically almost before your
eyes and be prepared to tell everyone that the photographs just don't tell
the half of it.
Dave Edelman
ASM, Troop 8
Staten Island, NY
Advisor to 712-F3 2002
(Who will also refrain form making public displays of mental aberrations)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of Laura L. Lahey
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:46 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: [Philmont]: Re:2002 Trek 5
Hi To All;
We are a Troop from Springfield, Oregon on our way to Philmont in August and
we just got confirmation that we got Trek 5. Can anyone tell me anything
about this trek? The good, the bad and the ugly would be wonderful! We are a
troop that focuses on backpacking trips, we did a 50 miler in August(110
degree canyon) of last year and other than the heat and major poison oak, we
did fine.
I am not finding any info regarding trek 5 so any help would be greatly
appreciated!!!
Thank you very much!!!
YIS,
Laura Lahey
triplelll2@attbi.com
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