From: Jerry Lewis (jerrylewis@attbi.com)
Date: Wed Apr 10 2002 - 23:40:51 CDT
Thanks, Dave. Got it.
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From: "David & Monica Harris" <harrises@earthlink.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Miner's Park
> Jerry asked: "...can you remember when you left Crater and
> when you arrived at Miners, or, if not those details, the
> amount of time it took to hike it?"
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> I do not remember the times exactly, but can tell you that a
> highly motivated Crew can cover the distance from Crater to
> Miners in 45 minutes to an hour. As I recall, it's a great
> trail, and a slightly downhill grade most of the way. When
> we tried to make the program, we failed. We pulled into
> Miners around 9:45 after a slower than expected morning
> start (Ranger goodbyes and final advice...). At the time,
> there was a 10 am climb that had met at 9:30 to hike up the
> hill to betty's bra (the name of the formation you climb at
> Miners). We played around on the climbing wall for a few
> minutes, and headed on to Black. If you do get to climb, be
> sure to load up your packs and take them with you. The
> trail to the climbing area is the same as the trail to N
> Fork Urraca. Where you fork off to go to the climb area
> there are bear cables and you can drop your packs. Once you
> head on to Black (as others have said) expect to get wet (or
> at least very tired of creek crossings) on the trail from N
> Fork Urraca to Black. Best estimate, 53 stream crossings,
> hope it's been dry.
>
> Another option for this day is to head to Black by way of
> Trail Peak. In 93 we did our conservation work near
> Beaubien on our layover day and missed the opportunity to
> climb Trail. This is a round-about route to Black Mountain,
> but given the short day going to Beaubien from Black and the
> layover day once there, what's a few extra miles. You could
> easily do the morning program at Black before heading over
> the ridge to Beaubien. That hike is probably no longer that
> the trip from Craters to Miners (but not all down hill)
>
> Jerry continued " Second, and most important of all,
> were/are there one or two climbing sessions in the morning
> at Miner's Park? What time(s)?"
>
> I think in 1993 there was only the one, but things change.
> That is a question best saved for logistics in basecamp.
> There is about a 30 minute hike from camp to the climbing
> area,
>
> YiS,
> David Harris
> Camper '78, Ranger '82 & '84, Advisor '93 & '03
> I want to go back!
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