From: Kirk's Mail (kbarley6@cox.net)
Date: Wed Apr 17 2002 - 06:05:52 CDT
Your ability to do a longer trek (super strenuous) is more determined by how
long it takes to get hiking in the morning and by the endurance of your
weakest participant (usually adult) than by anything else. If your youth
are older and committed to breaking camp, the question is how much program
to forgo for vistas. For first timers, why not take it a little easy, hike
6 per day (strenuous) and get lots of program in.
I think the limit is 25%. Medical makes the call at weigh in. Check
Selden's Web page for ideas on how to get your basic load (before water and
food) down below 20 lbs. Make some hard choices on weight discipline and it
will not matter that much. I take my own crew gear, taking only the bear
bag kit from Philmont so I can control crew weight.
Kirk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of Gary Dodge
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: [Philmont]: A couple of rookie crew questions
Our crew is entirely new to Philmont trekking and we need a couple of
questions answered (so far!).
First, our scouts have just made their selections of treks and we're
about to send the choices in, hoping for availability. The concern,
however, is that their selections are all at the very high end of the
difficulty scale. We (the advisors) are worried that they may have been
overly optimistic about their own capabilities (not to mention ours!).
None of these boys have done any extensive, multi-day backpacking trips
in the past. In their quest to fully exploit the Philmont experience,
are they going to make themselves too miserable to enjoy anything? How
should we counsel them?
Second, we have a couple of scouts participating who are pretty small
(~120 lbs). They, of course, haven't expressed any concern about the
necessary pack weights, but their parents have. We've heard conflicting
answers about how the assignment of crew equipment is done. We've been
told (by those parents) that they've heard that the equipment/food will
be divided so that nobody has a pack weight > 30% of their body weight.
We've also heard that the equipment/food will be distributed evenly and
each will carry approximately the same load. Obviously both answers
can't be correct. Can someone help us out based on actual recent
experience with crews of various size/age boys?
Thanks!
Gary Dodge
Old and feeble, but still a fox!
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