Re: [Philmont]: Crew Leader

A rotating crew leader is definately a bad idea for all of the previously
mentioned reasons and a few more. We had a rotating position of 'navigator'.
Much like the point guide that was mentioned. It gave everyone a chance to
participate in a leadership and skill building role while keeping the crew
leadership in the hands of the crew leader.

As far as choosing the crew leader; we consider the advisors as members of
the crew; they get an equal voice in all crew matters (including choice of
crew leader) and share equally in all crew chores and all crew fun!
FYI - advisors did not get to be navigators.

2002...ready to go...again...2003
ol' pack mule mr ball mr dave dave
2003 728F1 - trek 24

----- Original Message -----
From: <smith.13@nd.edu>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Crew Leader

> A rotating crew leader is a bad idea in my mind.
>
> Our crew leader has been working with practice hikes and weekend
> outings. Who does that when you rotate? Probably and adult advisor.
>
> Our crew divides into three 4 man teams that get an assignment each day
> (1.cooking, 2.water purification, 3.bear bags/dining fly/picking a
> camp.) Who assigns daily tasks when you have new crew leader each day and
> makes sure that everyone gets a fair chance at rotating jobs? That may be
> the first day crew leader, or the adult advisor.
>
> Who picks the new crew leader of the day? I guess the adult advisor.
>
> See a trend here. The adult advisor is much more involved than he should
> be. If the trek is going badly, the scouts look at the advisor and may
> just stop performing.
>
> A better way may be to have the crew leader appoint one scout to be the
> point guide that day. The crew leader (and the advisor only as needed)
> then helps the point guide with the hiking plan of the day. That gets
> everyone involved with compass work and trail planning. It keeps the crew
> leader responsible for the overall performance of the crew and keeps the
> advisor out of the way until needed.
>
>
> At 4/8/2003 05:27 PM, you wrote:
> >It would be interesting to get some thoughts about
> >the "Crew Leader" - how the role is viewed and how the
> >responsibilities are defined.
> >
> >I know an advisor who wants to assign the Crew Leader
> >position on a rotating basis among the crewmembers - like
> >a "Crew Leader for the day" type of thing. I think it's an
> >awful idea, and I've heard Phil Ranger Staffers in the past
> >mention encountering crews like this and how they thought
> >this was a sure way to doom a crew to a failed trek
> >experience, and how they tried to reason with the advisors
> >out of doing it that way. But someone mentioned it here on
> >this list a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> >Does anyone really plan on having the Crew Leader position
> >rotate among the crewmembers, and why do you think this is
> >a good thing?
> >
> >If you think this is a bad idea, why, and how would you
> >respond to an advisor who feels otherwise?
> >
> >Thanks for any input and ideas.
> >
> >Julian Love, Charlotte, NC
> >Expedition Lead Advisor x 7
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