MSR has recognized that there is a defect in the Dragonfly pump. The tabs
that hold the plunger to the pump are weak and frequently break off.
MSR (now a part of Cascade Designs) replaced my pump free of charge after I
called and obtained a Return Authorization. 1-800-531-9531
The new pump is a complete redesign and looks much sturdier.
I'd suggest that you check your pump and consider requesting a replacement
even yours hasn't failed yet.
Jim Kramer
Scoutmaster, Troop 8, Fort Dodge, IA
Philmont 1963,1997, 2000, 2003 and 2005
"I used to be a bear."
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Subject: [Philmont] - philmont Digest - V01 #923
> philmont Digest Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:01:18 -0500 V01 #923
>
> Today's topics:
> 'Cameras'
> 'RE: [Philmont]: Cameras'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Trek #2'
> 'RE: [Philmont]: Cameras'
> 'RE: [Philmont]: Cameras'
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:40:52 -0700
> From: "David Palmer" <dkpcullen@comcast.net>
> Subject: Cameras
>
>
> Good morning.
>
> Based upon my personal experience, I recommend that each scout bring some
> sort of a camera, even a disposable.
>
> I went to Philmont in 1976. I took a 110 camera. It was a nice 110 camera,
> but still just a point and shot. I took more than 80 pictures and had them
> developed. I left them with my parents and went off to college, jobs,
> marriage and family. My parents sent the pictures to me a couple of years
> ago. I looked at them a few times before I went to Philmont last year,
even
> showed them to the crew.
>
> This January, I was flying back to the Midwest, so I took the 1976
Philmont
> pictures. I put them in the same photo album as my 2003 Philmont pictures
> while I was killing time on the plane. For the first time, I paid close
> attention to the 1976 pictures. I was surprised at the things I FORGOT. Of
> course, I remembered climbing Mt. Baldy. From the pictures, I confirmed we
> climbed from the south end. I also remembered climbing the Tooth of Time,
> although I did not have pictures.
>
> I forgot that the ranger fixed Dutch-oven cobbler, but my pictures
captured
> this event. Surprisingly, I forgot we climbed Trail Peak, but I have a
> picture of the wreckage.
>
> Anyway, encourage your guys to take pictures. In 30 years, the pictures
may
> be their most important possession from the trip.
>
> David K. Palmer
> Scoutmaster - Olympia (Wash.) BSA Troop 266
> Every Scout Absolutely Matters
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:27:57 -0400
> From: "Troop 681 scout" <troop681@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Cameras
>
>
>
>
> In 1999, I had each member of my crew bring atleast 1 disposable camera.
I
> collected all the cameras after the trek, made copies of ALL the photos
for
> each crew member, and then split the cost between the crew members. I
took
> photos on slide film to have a slide show to share with the troop and for
> future recruiting..................
>
> In 2003, I took digital photos and made a disk for each member --- I got
> some really good PHOTOS and never had to change batteries. In hind sight
I
> wish I had encouraged each member to take their OWN photos to
> share............their perspective is much different than
> mine....................
>
>
>
> Kim Pigorsch
> Membership Chairmun (sic)
> and Eagle Scout Advisor
> Troop 681
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "David Palmer" <dkpcullen@comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
> >Subject: [Philmont]: Cameras
> >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:40:52 -0700
> >
> >Good morning.
> >
> >Based upon my personal experience, I recommend that each scout bring some
> >sort of a camera, even a disposable.
> >
> >I went to Philmont in 1976. I took a 110 camera. It was a nice 110
camera,
> >but still just a point and shot. I took more than 80 pictures and had
them
> >developed. I left them with my parents and went off to college, jobs,
> >marriage and family. My parents sent the pictures to me a couple of years
> >ago. I looked at them a few times before I went to Philmont last year,
even
> >showed them to the crew.
> >
> >This January, I was flying back to the Midwest, so I took the 1976
Philmont
> >pictures. I put them in the same photo album as my 2003 Philmont pictures
> >while I was killing time on the plane. For the first time, I paid close
> >attention to the 1976 pictures. I was surprised at the things I FORGOT.
Of
> >course, I remembered climbing Mt. Baldy. From the pictures, I confirmed
we
> >climbed from the south end. I also remembered climbing the Tooth of Time,
> >although I did not have pictures.
> >
> >I forgot that the ranger fixed Dutch-oven cobbler, but my pictures
captured
> >this event. Surprisingly, I forgot we climbed Trail Peak, but I have a
> >picture of the wreckage.
> >
> >Anyway, encourage your guys to take pictures. In 30 years, the pictures
may
> >be their most important possession from the trip.
> >
> >David K. Palmer
> >Scoutmaster - Olympia (Wash.) BSA Troop 266
> >Every Scout Absolutely Matters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:07:34 EDT
> From: SIHIWI@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Trek #2
>
>
>
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> I have never done trek #2, but have been to some of the camps. First
thing I
> noticed was the high number of dry camps. Better be ready to carry lots
of
> water. We are able to carry 4.5 qts. each AND 2 2.5 gallon bladders, and
that
> is hardly enough. Ponil is nice. Cantina, although better if later in
the
> trek is a treat. Harlan is a lot of fun. Be sure the boys do the Burro
racing.
> Dean Cow is rock climbling. Deer Creek is supposed to be a mess for good
> water (Never been there). Sawmill is a big camp. Try to do sunrise at
the
> staff house. (Oops. That's a no no because of the noise you will make.)
They
> say the water tower has a good sunrise. Nice camp although spread out.
Upper
> Clarks Fork. Go to the campfire at Clarks Fork that night. One of the
few
> night hikes allowed by Philmont. Tooth Ridge Camp is the best last night
camp on
> the Ranch. Don't miss the latrine that overlooks Base Camp. Some like
> sunrise from the Tooth. Tough climb in the dark. Crowded and noisy.
Last time we
> climbed the tooth after arrival, and did sunrise overlooking Base Camp.
No
> not from the latrine!!!
>
> Environmental awareness at Cimarroncito. Takes 3 hours, so arrive early.
> Try to find out where the site is and if you can go directly there.
Sometimes
> you can, sometimes not.
>
> Final words...
> Leave early, arrive early.
> Camel up and drink lots of water on the trail.
> Have a load of fun!!!
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:14:17 -0500
> From: "R Fisher" <ghotier@texas.net>
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Cameras
>
>
> Repeating what Dr. Bob said, I think it is ridiculous for 12 people to
> all take a photograph of the same spectacular rainbow, sunset, camp,
> program etc. etc. Also, there is a good chance that the adults will be
> able to take "better" photos of the scenery based on experience and
> fewer distractions; and they can catch candid shots of the crew members
> on the trek. To this end, it is my opinion that a crew photographer (or
> two) be in charge of taking the photos for the crew to share.
>
> OTOH, there are undoubtedly some things that each individual crew member
> may see and want to record for posterity (or just because it looked neat
> at the time) that may have meaning only to him/her. Plus, there may be
> times when the crew photographer isn't on hand to capture the moment.
> To this end, it might not be unreasonable for each crew member to take a
> camera for those personal shots. I would recommend to my crew that each
> person take *one* disposable camera if they choose, for personal
> preference shots. Better that than constantly loaning out the
> "official" camera. ;>)
>
> Just make sure they put their name or other identifying mark on them -
> they all look alike in the bear bag.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Roy Fisher
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:49:00 -0600
> From: "James H. Moss" <BSARecLaw@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Cameras
>
>
> I would be very careful with the idea of a crew photographer or limiting
> cameras. Consider this scenario when Johnny gets home.
>
> Mom: Johnny, let's see your pictures.
>
> Johnny: Well I didn't take that may because the crew photographer was
given
> priority. But this is what he thought was important.
>
> Mom does not want great photographs. She wants to see what Johnny saw. I
> have a minor in photography and worked for 3 years as a wildlife
> photographer out of college. I've been published in dozens of magazines.
> I've taken my nephew in the boundary waters, rafting down the grand canyon
> and up the Amazon river. I have done professional slide shows of grand
> canyon trips. My sister could care less out her brothers fantastic
> photographs. (I don't even think she has seen my grand photos.) But she
has
> everyone of my nephews slightly fuzzy, slightly funny photographs as her
> screensaver!
>
> Of the thousands of slides I have categorized, the ones I enjoy the most
and
> look are regularly are the ones my nephew took. Those are on my laptop
that
> I travel with because those give me the most joy. They may not be worthy
of
> national geo, but they have been seen by as many people in South East
Ohio.
>
> Kids are not going to Philmont (or the boundary waters or sea base or even
> summer camp) for the perfect experience. They want a kid experience. Our
job
> as leader's is not to make the trip perfect, but to help Johnny make the
> trip "Johnny perfect." I guarantee that "Johnny perfect" is not perfect.
It
> includes disasters, slightly overcooked or undercooked food or and maybe
a
> slightly damp night. Slightly damp is not miserable drenched. How do you
> tell the difference?
>
> One is training and follow up checking while the other is a leader
yelling,
> setting up tents and kids getting in trouble because they are bored. It's
> the difference between sleeping through a light rain and keeping your
ears
> open during a downpour. It's the difference between a little conference
with
> the crew leader and a crew leader wondering why they have the title
(unless
> that person is the prodigy of the leader......)
>
> Do you think as a young man Johnny remembers the perfect meals he cooked
or
> the one that was not quite perfect. Safe is one thing, perfect is called a
> leader run, leader cooking, leader in the front trip.
>
> Let's strive for great trips for Johnny you will be remembered forever as
> well as having your own memories. Johnny's memories will change as he/she
> grows older and will include more of you as a unit leader and mentor and
> less of you as a memory they would like to forget.
>
> Jim
>
>
> James H. Moss
> PO Box 16743
> Golden, CO 80402
> jhmoss@earthlink.net
> jmoss@coloradomtn.edu
>
>
>
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>
>
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