Well, there is the rub <g>.... In 2002, I brought the pants and never wore
them (having had only one rainy day). Sooooo, for 2004, I left the pants
at home and then felt that I needed them a couple of times while on the
trail. Not badly, but they would have been nice to have. But, I am not a
person who chills easily, so I knew I would probably be OK with just the
long coat when I made the decision to leave the pants. Only a couple of
our crew members brought rainpants (for many, it was a weight issue) and I
didn't hear MUCH complaining that they wished they had them. BUT, bottom
line for me, if I was going back this year, I would bring the pants, but
that is just MHO. Monsoon season last trek put the fear of God in me I
guess! I am just thankful we were NOT caught out on Mt Phillips or
trudging down the 50 million switchbacks into base camp in a torrential
hailstorm like some crews were! Also, I have the capacity to carry the
pants at 6' and 190 lbs, but some of my crew members (at 5'5" and 125 lbs)
didn't really have the capacity.....
I guess I am saying that this is an individual decision on the rain pants?
If you are someone coming from a warmer climate than New Mexico (or
Colorado - it is snowing here in Denver today) and might not be able to
handle that high altitude cold rain, then rain pants might be more of a
necessity. If you are a Seattle crew, you know what rain is all about and
already have that ultra-light, but high quality rain gear. We had a female
youth in our trek with whom I have camped for years. She is ALWAYS cold
and I suggested that she bring the rainpants. Because of weight limits,
she didn't take them on the trail and was OK. She just wore her long pants
more than the rest of us did. YIS. Mike ('76, '02 & '04).
"Steve..."
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Please respond to
philmont
Mike,
Is there a need to take the pants?
Thanks
Steve...
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From: <Michael_J_Conkey@nbc.gov>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: [Philmont]: Raingear
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> Just wanted to pass on the following from the "voice of experience".
Make
> sure that your crew members don't skimp on raingear? While we didn't
need
> our raingear much in 2002, in 2004 we were in a monsoon most of the time.
> I am impressed by the Marmot Pre-Cip and Pre-Cip Plus raingear. Very
> lightweight, yet breathable and waterproof. My daughter and I made a
last
> minute change to this gear (due to the weight of our old gear) and never
> got wet in it. And we had rain every day, accompanied with hail several
> times. The coat will cost you $100, but you can usually find it on the
> internet for $75 or so. The pants are $75, but again, I think you can
find
> them places for $50 or less. Our crew was OK in the raingear department,
> but most everyone (besides the Pre-Cip wearing folks) had bleed through
and
> wetness. Our sister crew was from Abilene, TX, and their raingear stunk.
> I guess it doesn't rain much there in West Texas <g>. It was the one
thing
> their advisor said he would change for their next trip -- a meeting at
his
> house, everyone puts on their raingear, and he turns the hose on them.
> Anyone who got wet would need to buy new raingear. We saw several youth
> hiking on the trail wearing trash bags obtained at staff camp. This can
> lead to bad hypothermia issues when hiking at the higher elevations!
>
> I have no financial interest in Marmot, just passing on my experience.
I'm
> sure there are other great raingear styles out there. YIS. Mike Conkey
> ('76, '02 & '04).
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