RE: [Philmont]: Eliminating disharmony

Normally you carry up twice to each camp. You carry a full pack up and drop
it off. Hike back down to base camp. Rest day. Carry another full pack up
and stay. Rest Day. Carry full pack up to the next camp leave pack, hike
down, rest day. You may leave a tent and gear at each camp to come back to
if all heck breaks lose. Continue this to you have what you need high enough
to go for the summit.

Way back down you pick up each camp pack it away and carry it down. By the
time you get to the last camp, you have a load. 3 to 6 half camps on your
back, 2 or more bags, 2 or more tents, ropes, stoves, emergency gear and
sleeping pads. Leave food stashed for the next disaster (at least that is
what you tell yourself when you don't want to carry that much stuff down.)

Jim Moss

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel Preston
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Eliminating disharmony

O.K., I'll bite - Why do you go up with 100 lbs. and come down with 120?

Sounds like your crew was much better off with Jim the Pack Mule Moss than
Phimont's burros.

Dan Preston
Louisville, KY

On Apr 3, 2006, at 2:06 PM, James H. Moss wrote:
>
> 80 pounds is light when you are mountaineering. I've carried 100
> pounds on average up and 120 down several times.
>
> I carried a spare stove, a spare fuel bottle, a half dozen spare
> socks, my tent, a crazy creek chair (that was luxury), etc.
>
> I had a lot of foot repair stuff in my first aid kit, aspirin etc. I
> had no idea what the kids were carrying and surveyed the stuff during
> the Philmont shakedown, but. I carried a backpacker stove and extra
> food, spices, etc.
> One night I taught the kids how to make pizzas. A lot of mornings we
> had scones or muffins. The boys made them, I just carried the stuff.
> Those are not on the Philmont menu, but made a big difference for the
> boys. A Frisbee, and I have not matter what else. I took a lot of
> stuff to keep the kids healthy and happy. Extra bear bag system, well
> worth the weight.
>
> Jim

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