The Phil-list Apr_2006: [Philmont] Pizza at Cimarron River

From: James H. Moss <bsa.rec.law@gmail.com>
Date: Fri Apr 14 2006 - 01:03:24 CDT

If I was on a trip and had the opportunity to order a pizza. The opportunity
to have a lunch that I did not have to make. To only pick up crumbs and fold
cardboard for clean up. To sit around and laugh with the crew during a funny
food break!

In a flash. Not even a second thought.

There will be enough wilderness trips if you and the youth want them where
there will be no pizza. Weeks or even months of freeze dried food.
Philmont is not a wilderness experience anyway. (Aghast!) A truck can get
anywhere. You run into people everywhere including buildings and staff etc.
Philmont is an experience and what ever you can do to maximize the
experience do it.

And what do you think the boys are going to remember. I would rather be
remembered and photographed grinning and eating a pizza then as the guy who
talked them out of it. What a hilarious group of pictures that would be on
day X. What do you think the youth are going to talk about.

That is a Wow. (Also made me hungry thinking about it.)

Jim

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From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Dunworth
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:26 PM
To: Philmont List Member
Subject: [Philmont] Pizza at Cimarron River

I second Jim's comment. I had the good fortune to accompany a crew on Trek 3
in 2000, and the question of a Cimarron River pizza party came up that year.
We had a discussion similar in nature to the one Jim describes and the crew
decided to postpone their pizza desires until the adventure was complete. I
am Goin' Back this year with a crew on Trek 24, which will again cross the
river. As in Scouting in general, sometimes the youth needs help to see the
bigger picture...

Mike Dunworth

608C2 in 2006
Trek 24
Troop 7
Topeka, Ks

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From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sengenberger
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:28 PM
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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Philmont] Pizza at Cimarron River

Had the opportunity to accompany a co-ed Venture Crew to Philmont on
itinerary 21 in '05. Some of the Crew wanted to order pizza when we crossed
64. We talked about this at length and I shared my opinion that ordering
take out in the back country is counter to the entire experience, similar to
taking Walkmans or PSP games on a trek. In the end, the Crew agreed and we
crossed the highway and continued on to the next camp site. Although it
would have been the most unique pizza party we could have experienced, you
can get pizza anytime, anywhere; you can only get Philmont in one place and
for some it will be a once in a lifetime experience. Just say no!

Jim

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From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Swiggum
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:43 PM
To: Philmont List Member
Subject: [Philmont] Pizza at Cimarron River

All I can add to this conversation is that upon returning to base camp, the
thing I most looked forward to was going into Cimarron with the crew and
enjoying Simple Simon's pizza and a large, ice cold Diet Pepsi (or two).
I'm talking FAN-TASTIC!

Waiting a few extra days for that wonderful repast is worth it, in my humble
opinion.

Pete Swiggum

Green Bay, WI

Philmont 2005

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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:33 PM

Subject: [Philmont] Pizza at Cimarron River

My understanding, since first trek, is that Philmont does not allow off site
activities. Pizza and trips to close communities are not allowed. Have
even heard of the locals "turning in" trekers who violate. Never been worth
it to me. Have heard of someone who had a stashed cooler at the road cross
and everyone had a great time upon arrival eating ice cream. Must have had
some help from someone not on a trek.

YIP X 7
1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2005
IWTGBTP (but probably won't be able) ;+(
Steve Unger
T-50, Fort Worth, Texas

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