[philmont] Disposing of gas cannisters

Geez Jim,
Leave no trace? So you are going to expend huge amounts of resource and
energy and leave a waste trail behind your crew the size of a very large
refrigerator, not to mention the carbon footprint involved merely in
getting there, and you are going to go ballistic on a canister because you
might have to throw it away? What do you do with the food packaging while
on the trail? Do you eat it all? :-)

There may (or may not be) good reasons to use one stove over another, but
LNT is not one of them.
I happen to prefer canisters and external frame backpacks myself. Your
mileage may vary. There is a LOT of religion around this one, and a lot of
misinformation as well.
We prepared our crew's dinner (on a shakedown trip) on two canister stoves
without incident and I have run a canister stove above the treeline on
several occasions with good success. Since we rarely get below freezing
here in Central Texas, temperature was not a factor in determining the
type of stove.

Having been the scout when the fuel bottle leaked and ran down my back and
legs, which caused a pretty serious chemical burn, did factor in.

Just my $.02

Richard Hasting

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  From: Jim Moss
  Subject: [philmont] Disposing of gas cannisters
  Sent: Apr 03 '07 09:08

  Leave NO Trace.

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philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Dave
  Smith
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:52 AM
  To: philmont List Member
  Subject: [philmont] Disposing of gas cannisters

  Two years ago we took 2 white gas stoves to Philmont, which worked fine.

  Since we were flying in, I shipped the stoves by UPS, and bought the gas
at
  Philmont.

  This year, the scouts are talking about wanting to take cannister
stoves.
  Some questions:

  1) Which type of cannister does Philmont sell at the backcountry trading
  posts?

  2) Will the staffed camps accept empty cannisters as trash?

  3) Will headquarters accept empty cannisters as trash?

  4) Can we ship full or empty cannisters, or check them on the airline as
  luggage?

  I'm more interested in answers to these questions, and less interested
in
  "are white gas stoves better than..." discussions, but who can control
this
  group :-)

  Thanks for your help,
  Dave Smith
  Troop 32
  Santa Rosa, CA
  2007 703-O

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