[philmont] Disposing of gas cannisters

From: Jim Moss <bsa.rec.law@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Apr 11 2007 - 18:40:58 CDT

Every little bit helps or Any excuse not to be better.
 
What do you want to leave the next generation with?
 
I own several canister stoves. I use them above 22000 feet because nothing
else works. I've lit them below that to test them. I am very sad about
that because there is only place where they work where they can be recycled.
Denali. yet not a single canister gets recycled on ?Denali. They all get
tossed in the garbage and hauled off like all of the other trash.
Everywhere else they go into a landfill, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Chile.
My canister stoves are half the weight of my other stoves. I figure if I
want to save another 4 ounces I can take it off my waist.
 
Every argument for canisters is based on laziness or fear of a problem. You
may have a personal preference. You may have had a problem in the past. But
we are smarter now, we are better educated, the equipment is built better.
Youth will still be youth however and I cannot argue that youth will not
screw up. However if youth did not screw up, you would not be needed.
 
You cannot argue recycle is better than reuse. I have some fuel bottles
that are 25 years old and still working great.
 
It is not my footprint that I am worried about. It is the thousands of feet
that the members of this list have access too. Access in a very
informative, educational, look up to you position. If one more person on
this list switches in one crew, that is 11 footprints that changed. If two,
well you can do the math.
 
Out here in the southwest we have a type of soil called cryptogrammic soil.
A foot print in it stays there for one hundred years. In the grand canyon
they've found footprints of Robert Stanton. Stanton wore a specific type of
leather boot with a known boot size. The NPS knows he was at that exact site
because they have a photograph he took from the site. He stepped in
cryptogrammic soil and his footprint is still there today with nothing
growing in it. He surveyed the canyon in 1889.
 
Footprints of the youth you influence will last more than our lifetime.
Probably more than their lifetimes. I would hope those footprints I
influence are walking the correct way.
 
I find it hard to lighten up over issues of protecting the earth. I find it
hard to lighten up when the earth we may be leaving the next generations,
the generations you are taking 2 plus weeks of vacation to help, may not
have a place in which they want to live. let alone go see. I want to
educate, help, give suggestions. I will always point out wrong and dangerous
or stupid. I want laugh more.
 
Jim Moss
 
 

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