[philmont] philmont-issue dining fly

We had an 11 man crew and used only the one 12x12 Noah. We ran into rain at
least two nights and had to eat under it. A little tight but not bad.

60 lbs is pretty stout pack. Especially going up Trail Peak from
Fowler Pass, or up Mt Phillips from Clear Creek.

I trained for 6 months daily with a 70 lb pack on flat land, lifted weights,
did push ups, pull ups to get in shape for the trek. I was in really good
shape, and it was a struggle on some of the climbs. I didn't weigh my pack
out of base camp, but my guess it was around 55 lbs. One day was 11+ miles
from Webster Park to Tooth ridge, and was a butt kicker as well.

For 2009, I'm slimming down my pack so that without crew gear, food or
water I hope to be around 18 Lbs, or less.

On 4/14/08, Donald S. Roberts <donald@hummellawfirm.com> wrote:
>
> *From:* cott1717@aol.com
> All I can say about dining flies is weight weight weight.
> You need two for a full crew.
>
> I couldn't let this pass. I can see no reason at all for two dining
> flies. Shoot, you rarely even need the one. We set it up every
> night on our treks, but never once either cooked under it or ate
> under it. I can't imagine why a crew would need two. The rain
> almost always stops before dinner and starts after breakfast, and
> almost all breakfasts are non-cook. We used it only to stick
> gear under to keep it out of the rain on the nights when it rained.
>
> As to weight, I guess that depends on your tolerance. Most
> Philmont treks are not at all physically challenging. You are
> only at 9 or 10 thousand feet, so it is not as high as a Sierra
> Trek, and the distances rarely exceed 10 miles in a day.
> Carrying a heavy load of 50 or 60 pounds is not that big
> a deal. Paying attention to weight is nice, but your load
> isn't so big for the conditions that you have to get all
> that sticky about it.
>
> Regards
> Don Roberts
> Fullerton, CA
> Treks 03, 05, 08
> PTC 02, 08
>
>
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