[philmont] Weight of Philmeals

From: Larry Taylor
> Ok, I am going to start a firestorm here but ....
> On my first day on the trail at Philmont I carried 4 full nalgenes and
> drank one on the trail (It was only 2-3 miles)
>the second day, I drank a nalgene before leaving camp and then only carried
2.
Uh, gee, Larry, what did you do with your empties? Throw them away? :-)

> looked at our map and then at the wide running stream and decided that I
did not need more.

I agree with Larry. Except where you are coming to a dry camp, you rarely
need to carry
more than two liters.

However, you need the capacity, so 4 nalgenes per person is about right.
But some can be empty :-) Collapsible water bottles can save bulk, though,
and that can be important immediately following a four day food pickup.

I am not aware of any first days that are either long or dry, so 4 liters
out of
base camp seems QUITE excessive. Add water as food is consumed, since
a meal for two weighs almost as much as a full nalgene.

Remember, Philmont supplied food is very heavy compared to what a well-
planned backpack should be carrying. Philmont gear is *extremely* heavy
compared to what a well-planned backpack should be carrying. Deal with
it. It is just unfortunate that Philmont, specializing in backpacking,
doesn't.

Regards
Don Roberts
Fullerton, CA

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Received on Wed Apr 16 14:48:07 2008