PTC people that attend Training Conferences (3K plus per year) buy some of
the 14,000 plus shirts they sell at Tooth of Time Traders, and they have no
weight restrictions, because they do not hike or go out. We took a bus tour
of Philmont area while @ PTC and they told us what a big business ToT is
(sell to over 28K visitors per year, and high volume shirts, water bottles,
Philmont souvenirs- plus a huge mail order business). Philmont has four
areas of revenue - PCC, Camping and Treks, PTC Training and Conferences,
PSR, Working Scouting Ranch, ToT - Gift Shop. They need all of them to keep
everything reasonable. I would have loved to buy a 3X while I was there, but
they did not have in stock at that moment. Some items they sell/turnover at
least 200 plus per day. I called back via mail order last week and ordered
everything I missed the week before (gift wise/size) from Tooth of Time
Traders mail order section. Now your son knows why they carry (3x) for
souvenirs for Conferences Attendees (and my son better bring me back (or
arrange via mail order) a 3x or 4x shirt when I spend all my money to send
him on a trek). They do have a regular restock supply system, they were out
of things I (a PTC conference attendee) wanted too, but they had it the next
week or two when I called back and ordered via mail order. They are
temporary out of Tooth of Time Traders Philmont Catalog but will have soon,
and they promised me I am on their mailing list and will send me on as soon
as they come out. I dropped my personal ceramic Philmont coffee mug at tent
city the day I was leaving and it broke on the concrete! I called the next
week and got the same mug a week later via mail order so no problem. I plan
to order many 3x/4x items and gifts from ToTT. Philmont Camping Center
(where the Tooth of Time Traders Gift Shop is located) sees over 22,000 plus
(more soon now that we have access to the second trekking ranch) and does a
high volume of gift business in shirts, and other Philmont souvenirs. As a
person who missed buying what I wanted at the moment at the Gift Shop I am
sorry for you and your son missing the gift opportunity, but you can still
get via mail order. Every time I have called the ToTT the have given me
excellent customer service and my stuff has arrived in a timely manner and
in great shape (they pack very well)! Thanks for supporting the Treks, and
the Gift Shop, but more especially thank you being a good scout and letting
other people go on their first trip to Philmont! Even though I only attended
Philmont Training Center for a Cub Scout Conference it was the still
highlight of my Scouting Volunteering Career!!! Thanks for being a true
Scout! Yours in Scouting: Jerry D. Bailey (Asst. Cubmaster (wears size 3x/4x
BSA shirts) (to big for the trail, but to big for Cub Scout Leadership
(Leader of the Year - two years in a row) (good help is hard to get) I LOVE
SCOUTING and hope to help organize unit and District treks to Philmont when
my son becomes Philmont age/weight eligble. Just attended Philmont for first
time last month, and it renew and revived my hope and love for Scouting
Growth!
-----Original Message-----
From: smith.13@nd.edu [mailto:smith.13@nd.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:34 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: [Philmont]: ToTT and shirts
My son got back from Philmont last week. This was my son's second trek. I
had allowed adults who had not been there before to go and I took younger
scouts backpacking in Southern Indiana. I was glad I chose not to go to
Philmont, as I had some very sore knees after day 1 and am still some pain
two weeks later after only packing 25 miles.
But to my point...I had given my son some money to buy me a Philmont
shirt. He came back with a very nice long sleeve shirt. He said he found
a short sleeve t-shirt that he really liked, but they only had it in triple
X. He wondered why they would even carry that size as anyone that large
would weigh too much for the trail. Maybe that is why it was the only size
left. Do they ever restock during the season?
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Roman J. Smith
Scoutmaster Troop 505
roman.j.smith.13@nd.edu
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