Re: [Philmont]: Too much water?

From: Mike Bingley <mbingley@telusplanet.net>
Date: Mon Aug 25 2003 - 12:02:02 CDT

This was discussed at some length last summer (about this time of year, I
might add). I think the final outcome of the discussion was that if you
drink more than 12 liters of water in a day you're in trouble (something
about the body not being able to get rid of all that water).

So - drink lots of water whenever you're outside. If it gets so hot that
you're approaching the 12 liter mark, stop, find shade and stop exercising.

I am by no means an expert on this, as I pointed out when this discussion
was going on last summer - I have a degree in history, not biochemistry, but
it seems to me that not hiking when it gets too hot to hike is good advice
in any case.

Cheers

Mike

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> From: "BSA" <BSARecLaw@earthlink.net>
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> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:29:41 -0600
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]:  Too much water?
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> There was a study done to study hyponatraemic encephalopathy  in the grand
> canyon. The results were quite alarming.  However the Wilderness Medical
> Society investigated the study and found it to be full of holes. The WMS
> still believes that although hyponatraemic encephalopathy  is possible, it
> is extremely rare. They believe it is impossible to do when exercising as
> you are losing so much water.  If you are suffering from hyponatraemic
> encephalopathy  you are also not urinating usually.  Hyponatraemic
> encephalopathy leaves you conscious, heat stroke, dehydration leave you
> unconscious.  Too much water take a leak.  Not enough, evacuation if you are
> still alive.  After thousands of hours in the desert I have never seen a
> case of hyponatraemic encephalopathy, I have seen dozens of cases of
> dehydration.
> 
> Jim
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> James H. Moss
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> From: "Chris Summers" <SummersCreative@kingwoodcable.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:13 AM
> Subject: [Philmont]: Too much water?
> 
> 
>> Everyone who hikes at Philmont or attends PTC is told to drink water
> often;
>> we all know the term "clear and copious!" But I read an interesting
> article
>> in the London Times last week quoting an article in the British Medical
>> Journal by a Professor Timothy Noakes of the University of Cape Town,
> South
>> Africa.
>> 
>> Professor Noakes wrote that the advice that athletes should replace all
> the
>> liquids they loose through sweating while exercising, either by drinking
> as
>> they can tolerate or by drinking somewhere between one and two pints per
>> hour may be dangerous. His research notes that there have been 7 recorded
>> deaths and over 250 cases of hyponatraemic encephalopathy in athletes,
>> soldiers and hikers who were advised to drink as much as possible while
>> exercising. This is a potentially fatal condition caused by a severe lack
> of
>> salt in the blood due to excessive flushing of the system with water.
>> 
>> Here is a link for anyone interested.
>> http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7407/113
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Summers
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