The Phil-list Aug_2003: Re: [Philmont]: Philmont edicts

From: Mark R Alman <m-alman@raytheon.com>
Date: Fri Aug 29 2003 - 12:57:59 CDT

I'm with you, Mollie!

Last summer, our Troop was blessed enough to have had 2 backpacking treks
AND we were pulled for a lottery trek. (Yes, it is possible to do this in
the same year. you just can't go to Philmont in Back-to-back years).

I was in our our our backpacking crews, prior to Cavalcade, as was my 15 YO
son. After the Cavalcade trek, I asked our guys who "double-dipped" (did
both treks) which they preferred.

A resounding, "CAVALCADE!"

I'm with them.

Not sure why/who told you to buy $55 pants to ride a horse, Phil. We rode
them at Clark's Fork and our whole Crew had on shorts. No problem!

Later,

Mark Alman (all this Cavlacade talk makes me want to mount up and go back!)

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Our Cavalcade crew arrived home on 7/23. All 15 of us just took whatever
rain pants we already owned. Personally, I purchased a $25 set of jacket &
pants from Wal*Mart and took only the pants as Philmont provides the
slicker. There was no discussion by our horseman or wrangler regarding
noise being a problem for the horses or what would stand up to the rigors
of
riding through trees/brush. Same for our sister crew. I don't know who
led
y'all down this path but it's a shame to make you feel you should make such
an extraordinary investment in something that was such an unnecessary
amount
of $$ to spend.

Nose-to-tail being what it is, seeing Philmont from a horseback point of
view is pretty special. I only have one who is semi-interested in doing
the
walking - the rest wouldn't trade our method of travel next time!

here's to returning in two years!

Mollie McAuliffe
Crew Advisor
714-CV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Brown" <phil@eisnc.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:27
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont edicts

> Mark,
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> I'm not offering any alternative as I am not an experience wrangler and
> do not profess to know the safety issues in dealing with horses. All of
> my other experience riding was not in a group situation. My point is
> that spending $55 for a pair of long pants to insure being able to ride
> at Philmont seemed to be a poor value to me. I've done the rides on
> both my treks and they would rank last on my list of favorite Philmont
> activities. Just my opinion. If I make it back again and my crew goes
> riding, I'll spend the time sitting somewhere enjoying some scenery
> other than the back end of the horse in front of me.
>
> I'm sure there are those that find the horse rides a great experience
> and I'm glad the opportunity is there for them.
>
> Phil Brown
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> From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
> Behalf Of Mark R Alman
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont edicts
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> Phil,
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> what alternative method would you suggest that Philmont use for
> horseback
> rides when you are dealing with:
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> * Large groups of individuals.
> * Narrow and uneven roads and trails.
> * Striving to insure the health and safety of the individuals.
> * " " " " " " horses.
> * A far distance to the hospital, in case of injury.
> * " " " vet, " "
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> Just curious as to what you would recommend, since I have been on two
> Cavalcade (horseback treks) and numerous trail rides there and in other
> parts of the Rockies.
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> They've ALL been like the method you describe.
>
> Just curious.
>
> YIS,
>
> Mark Alman
> Troop 67
> Mesquite, TX
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> I personally and several of our crew wore rain pants to ride at
> Beaubien. I would hate to think I spent $55 for that boring ride. What
> a terrible value. If I am fortunate enough to make a 3rd trek, they
> will have to pay me to ride the Philmont nose to tail method.
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