Re: [Philmont]: Need Philmont-related advice

Rick

#1 below is worth a try, hope it would work, but there is a better than
average chance that you are talking about a cracked head or bent connecting
rod (or worse). Would need to find out if it won't turn over because of a
problem somewhere between and including the battery and starter (sounds like
it was in deep water), or if all of that is fine and there is serious engine
damage. Be sure to remove all the plugs before trying to turn it over.

Allen Jones
SM Troop 168
Oklahoma City

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Need Philmont-related advice

> Rick,
>
> I am a member of a discussion board that has some very helpful guys on it.
> After posting your dilemma, here are two responses:
>
> #1
> "Many factors at work here.....
>
> If he removes all the plugs and spins the motor, water removed?
> With a good carburetor spraying, water displaced?
> A change of the oil and filter after squirting each spark plug hole with
> Marvel Mystery Oil (or diesel fuel water displacer) and rolling it over a
> few more times, followed by squirting 5W30 into the plug holes.... quite a
> smoke cloud for a few minutes, but I got a GTO running that way some years
> ago.
>
> Assuming he has some time available, this is a sort of problem solving
> exercise that is possible if he has some tools and if he has access to a
> credit card/ cash.... Pep Boys has all that stuff... assuming a parts
store
> is available. Sounds like something he/they could take a crack at without
> too much risk. Any effort short of your roundtrip hassle would be an
> experience. Of course, getting it home would also be a good trip, assuming
> they can handle the details you describe...... no input there. Good luck-
my
> dad was an Eagle Scout! "
>
> #2
>
> Get a tow bar and tow it on the ground with the Jeep. Just remove the
rear
> driveshaft if it is an auto transmission.
>
> Leave a long distance between the Jeep and anything in front as the
stopping
> distance will be twice as much as usual.
>
> Hope this helps some. I will let you know if I get more ideas.
>
> Alan Hamm
> Scoutmaster
> Troop 8 - Bethesda, MD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Neff" <rln2@psu.edu>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:55 PM
> Subject: [Philmont]: Need Philmont-related advice
>
>
> > PhilPholks,
> >
> > I need some advice for a more "personal" problem - no, not chaffing
.....
> >
> > I need some advice for my son on how to get his car home from Philmont.
> > My son, Josh Neff is a first year Ranger, this year. The engine on his
> 1996
> > Explorer is locked-up and it appears that it needs replaced. Josh would
> > prefer to get the car home (central Pa.) and take care of the engine
> > replacement here..
> >
> > Josh asked me to help coordinate a trailer rental so he and a fellow
> Ranger
> > can tow it home. Sounds simple - right?
> > So far, it looks like UHaul will not rent them a trailer, as the towed
> > vehicle is about the same weight as the towing vehicle (a Jeep Grand
> Cherokee).
> >
> > I am going to verify the trailer rental and see if there are any other
> > truck or trailer options, from the national chains.
> > Even if I can solve that, I am a little concerned about two 19
year-olds -
> > towing for the first time and towing with an under-sized vehicle...
> > If we continue to look at hauling by trailer (and cannot rent one), I am
> > considering moving my planned purchase of a "car-hauling-type" flat bed
> > trailer up and wondering about trying to purchase it in New Mexico via
> > phone or Internet????
> >
> > Another option is to hop in the truck and drive out - to do the towing
> with
> > a bigger vehicle and an experienced driver. I am not thrilled with this
> > option for several reasons - 1-tough getting off work as I already went
to
> > Philmont this summer; 2-this could cost a $1000 (for fuel and related
> > expenses); 3-it would be an unpleasant, whirlwind trip; 4-Doing this
would
> > diminish my son's experience of "solving" this problem himself....
> >
> > I am looking for other options and ideas.
> > Do any of you know about shipping a car by train, or by hired truck, or
> > some other method?
> > Or perhaps, personally know a reliable mechanic in the Cimarron area?
> >
> > BTW - these two finish up and plan to leave on August 10th.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any advice.
> > Also, thanks for tolerating a non-trek related question.
> >
> > Your in Scouting (and parenting),
> > Rick Neff
> > Scoutmaster, Troop 31
> > State College, Pa.
> >
> > FWIW - the engine died when it consumed some water in through the air
> > intake system. The engine became hydra-locked. It is unclear how much
> > damage was done. At this time the engine will not turn over. Josh
reports
> > that a volume of water came out of at least two cylinders when he
removed
> > the spark plugs.....
> >
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