Joe Tavares writes ...
Um,
I believe Philmont requires adult advisors to be 21. At 18, he is still
considered a "youth." He's actually a "special case youth" in that he is not
allowed to tent with either adults or under-18 youths.
Comment ...
Oh, were it so simple!
This is another topic the List routinely goes around on, and it affects a
number of things - particularly the adult leadership requirement, tenting,
and showers. In a nutshell, the issue is that while Philmont's requirements
parallel Boy Scout requirements, Venturing crews need to meet both
Philmont's and Venturing's requirements.
Dealing just with the leadership aspect (I hope I kept this straight, and
I'm sure I'll hear about it if I did not) ...
For a Boy Scout unit at Philmont, an 18 year old is considered an adult for
all purposes. Boy Scouts requires two deep adult leadership, at least one
of whom must be over 21. Philmont also requires both that a crew be
majority under 21, and that there are no more than 4 adults over 21. Both
advisors do NOT have to be over 21.
Venturing Crews also require two deep adult leadership, and both must be
over 21. But that requirement is from the program, not Philmont.
It is easy to come up with hypothetical (and certainly not realistic) crew
makeups that make no sense - for instance, a Boy Scout crew with one over
21, another one over 18, and the rest eighth graders is okay, while a
Venturing crew with one over 21 and everyone else 20 is not.
- Al Thomson, Troop 236, Schooley's Mountain NJ
Treks 1999, 2001, and 2003
Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006
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