[Philmont] Rain Gear & Sleeping bags

I won't point to what is the best product to put under a sleeping bag but
some foam pad
under a sleeping bag is a must have item for two reasons. 1) you are
insulated
from the ground, which helps your sleeping bag keep you warm 2) you are not
in contact with any hard features on the ground, which makes it easier to
get to sleep.

As to a rain cover for the pack, in the old days we would roll the sleeping
bag sideways, wrap the sleeping bag "tube" with the ground cloth, and then
lash the bag/ground cloth
onto the pack horseshoe style. The middle would be on top of the pack and
the two ends were lashed to the side of the pack. The pack itself was water
resistant and did not need a cover.

We carried very inexpensive lightweight plastic rain ponchos to keep the
rain off. Today there
are probably a variety of better choices of poncho fabric.

It can never be mentioned too often that taking care of your feet is basic
to having
a great trek. Take plenty of socks. They really weigh very little. You
may be able to wash
socks as you go along but then again maybe not. Take more than enough for a
daily sock
change and extra for changes when needed. Keep them in a plastic zip lock
type bag so
that they will be dry when you take them out to use them.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com
Philmont 1965; 1978

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>Subject: [Philmont] Rain Gear & Sleeping bags
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:11:24 -0400
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>I'll probably be in the minority again ... but here goes
>
>Bags - I use a 35, its fine. I know people who have been cold in a 20.
>Both of my treks in recent years did Phillips and had several camps over
>10000. One year was wet and cold, one year was dry and nice. To that add
>a
>nice pad - last time, the cold one, I did a Thermarest prolite 3 3/4 with
>my
>crazy creek making up the bottom third ... bad idea. This year I got a
>full
>length pad from ALPs mountaineering ... www.scoutdirect.com ... a much
>better value than another thermasrest IMHO. I did bring rag socks for
>sleeping in and had thermals as well.
>
>YIS
>Jim
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> From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of
>Stephen Readett
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:38 PM
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> Subject: [Philmont] Rain Gear & Sleeping bags
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>
> OK, Full rain gear is a must and I'm going to get the Pack Cover as I
>should have.
>
> On the rain gear side I must have looked like I should have been on
>America's Funniest People trying on the Marmot Precip full zip pants at the
>REI store. I took me a full frustrating 20 minutes! I have been looking at
>the Precip since it comes so well recommended, but is the full zip really
>that difficult or do I just need to practice putting them on more? I have a
>very good pair of rain pants but I need to remove my boots first.
>
> On another topic, Sleeping bag temperature ratings. I sleep warm so I
>would think a 20 degree bag would be more than adequate for Philmont. I
>know
>it is more of a personal preference but I like to be prepared. (I am a
>gearhead with more gear than some outfitters.) It has been recommended to
>me
>to bring a 0 degree bag. I think that is overkill. I didn't even use a 0
>degree bag at OKPIK! I did have a liner though which might have brought my
>bag down to 5 degrees or so.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Steve R
> Okemos, MI
>
>
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