[philmont] Last full crew / Backcountry soda and candy

I totally agree. My crew didn't mention the possibility of going for pizza or burgers. I did offer them the options of going to town or going to the Kit Carson museum on day 13 and while I wasn't aware of a few sightseeing options in town, they did pick the museum/tour over going to town for tourist stuff and pizza/ice cream. We had already planned on ordering Pizza Hut at the train station and that may have also played into their decision some. We had enough of our check in complete on Day 1 that we went ahead and did a Villa tour mid-morning on Day 2 (our bus to Turkey Creek didn't leave until 2 PM.) This is my second trip to Philmont and I have yet to 'go to town'. While I realize it's been long standing tradition, I have been lucky enough to be with crews that are more interested in the history and sights on the ranch than they are to load up on pizza in their 'free' time. Kevin Mineart 2007 618-E2 I-11 Lead Advisor 2003 802-B3 I-18 Co-Advisor ----- Original Message ---- From: Troop 6 Webmaster <troop6webmaster@comcast.net> To: philmont List Member <philmont@troop47.com> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 5:09:37 PM Subject: [philmont] Last full crew / Backcountry soda and candy There are already too many crews phoning in simple simons orders and taking delivery along highway 64 ... ugh. Look, celebrating accomplishments are fine, in fact essential, and if it's candy that floats your crew's boat thats fine too ... but bring it from home or base camp and like any other food item or smellable, treat it with the appropriate level of respect. Finally, and I know I won't be popular for this one ... 'cause I'm not with my crews: Simple Simons is great as is the 64 drive-in ... but its just burgers and pizza ... hardly a novelty in the real world. I'd rather see a crew take the time to tour the villa and reflect a little about humility, selflessness, philanthropy and vision than to bypass all that for a burger or a slice. A fifteen year old left to his own devices isn't likely to make that choice, but will likely remember it forever ... as this (once) 15 year old did. If you have time for both, knock yourself out, if you don't the choice, in my mind, is easy. I was one that didn't mourn the loss of the town shuttle in '06; but applaud Mike Pardue and Blue Sky for bringing it back. Just my opinion. YIS Jim HA Chair Chester County Council www.troop6bsa.org?cmd=philmont PSR '74(16) '04(4) '06(26) IWTGBTP www.troop6bsa.org?cmd=philsearch -----Original Message----- From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of Dave Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:08 PM To: philmont List Member Subject: [philmont] Last full crew / Backcountry soda and candy What fun is there to roll into base camp on day 12 and head over to the trading post for a soda and candy when you've been stuffing yourself all trek long? What next, pizza slices for sale at staff camps, to take away the fun of hurrying to Simple Simon's? I carried individual packages of Skittles all trek for Baldy peak. I was afraid M&Ms or anything chocolate would melt in base camp. If I had known they sold Toblerone, I would have bought it along the way. The kids were very thankful for the Skittles. I agree they should eliminate or restrict the candy (maybe only sell candy to advisors). They should keep the root beer, but limit it. Dave Smith Troop 32 Santa Rosa, CA GEORGE TAYLOR wrote: > Jim, I want to elaborate on Larry's toblerone comment. I became an > amateur expert on Philmont by reading everything that comes out on > this list (the old pros here are really awesome in terms of the depth > of advice and soundness of reasoning, and some of them aren't really > that old (50's doesn't count)), and one of the suggestions I read > early on was that it is good to have something to do to celebrate > making it to the top of Baldy. One adviser carried a bag of M&M's to > the summit and shared them with the crew. Others have used other > candy, all of which has to be purchased at home and hauled a long way. > > Buying the M&M's was one of those things on my list that didn't get > done prior to departure, but when we arrived at Baldytown on our way > to the summit, I ran in to the trading post (which actually has all > kinds of stuff) and bought two small Toblerone bars for each Scout. > When we got to the top, I gave them to the Scouts to celebrate our > accomplishment. You would have thought I served them a steak dinner > with all the words of thanks, and it really turned out well. My only > cautionary note was that I required that one Scout take up and account > for every single wrapper so that none were left in pants pockets or > backpacks, but I highly recommend a couple of a pieces of chocolate as > a good way to acknowledge a significant milestone in your trek. > > George ------------------------------------------------------- Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp ------------------------------------------------------- Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com ------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe send text email to: To: listserv@troop47.com Subject: unsubscribe Body: unsubscribe philmont@troop47.com ------------------------------------------------------- As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp ------------------------------------------------------- Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com ------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe send text email to: To: listserv@troop47.com Subject: unsubscribe Body: unsubscribe philmont@troop47.com ------------------------------------------------------- As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. ------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? 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