From: Larry Stout (larry@cms-stl.com)
Date: Wed Dec 05 2001 - 09:18:44 CST
Good Points made by SLK. However, after the attack on the group from Arkansas in
2001, the crew was pull back to base camp for a couple of days. Those that wanted to
go back out were returned to the backcountry on a modified itinerary. We spoke with
them at Head of Dean and they shadowed us for the rest of our trek. They were a
great bunch of guys who were determined to enjoy Philmont as best they could
considering the circumstances. I suspect that the decision to return to the trail
would be left up to the crew members after consulting with officials at base camp.
Larry Stout
St. Charles, MO.
skrzewi1@d.umn.edu wrote:
> Hi everyone! I have 2 comments. First on the number of adviors. It is strongly
> encouraged to take only about 3 adviors and no more. The whole idea of Philmont
> is for the youth to get the best exprience possible. Yes, it may be "fun" for
> the adviors, but often times, even at some of the programs advisors are
> discouraged to particpate. (Such as challenge event camps). A good example of
> this is how they pick a crew leader from the crew to lead, and not an advisor.
> It may be a mean thing to say, but the point of Philmont is for the youth to
> have a great exprience and have fun, and not the advisors. For every advisor
> over two that you bring, you are knocking out at least one youth from exprience
> Philmont.
>
> Also.. on this bear topic. There have been 5 bear attacks in the past 2 summers.
> 3 in 2000 and 2 in 2001. No one was killed. But what people don't seem to
> understand that if you have an incident like that, if a bear comes in contact
> with anyone in the crew, the WHOLE crew is then pulled off the trail and not
> allowed to return. Depending on the situation they many not even recieve their
> arrowhead patches. Why risk it? Follow directions and put everything in the bear
> bag. Philmont does not like to go and chase down a bear that has attacked
> anyone. It is more work for the staff and of course the Bear is killed. It's a
> sad sad thing.
>
> SLK
>
> CHQ 98
> Head of Dean 99
> Urraca 2000
> Beaubien 2001
> ??? 2002
>
> "May all your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to
> the most amazing view.... where something more strange and more beautiful
> and more full of wonder than your deepest dreams wait for you."
>
> ---Edward Abbey
>
> My Philmont page
>
> http://communities.msn.com/sarahsphilmontpage
>
>
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