[Philmont]: Re: trekking poles, hydration packs

From: Alan and/or Brenda Thomson (abthomson@goes.com)
Date: Thu Dec 12 2002 - 19:45:14 CST


Marty Galligan writes...

On water, every crew member had three liters of personal capacity, which was
usually three Nalgenes. In addition, there was a five gallon bladder, a 2.5
gallon bladder, and a 1.5 gallon bladder, and those three items got us
through the dry spots. We went on August 13-21 last year, which was pretty
dry.

Comment....

9 gallons total, 36 quarts. One container that weighs about 40 pounds full,
another around 20. I would not want to carry either very far (obviously
sharing the load), and would have to put down my trekking poles to do it, to
boot.

I know that the Guidebook to Adventure lists 2-3 collapsible 2.5 gallon
water containers (5-7.5 gallons total), but that is the one item that I am
adamant about ignoring and doing something else.

Nalgene makes 3 quart collapsible containers. Each crew member carries one.
Ten are 30 quarts or 7.5 gallons. Filled, each weighs 6 pounds. In volume,
about the size of one food package. Put it in your pack, and except for the
slightly extra weight, you will forget that you have it.

(By the way, our crews only treat water in the three quart containers, and
only put water that is ready to drink into our personal water bottles or
bladders).

And the guarantee is golden. I don't know when they started making these,
but the ones we bought for our '99 trek had to be early in the product's
life, because the unreinforced handle was obviously a design flaw. About
half tore (the containers themselves remained intact and continued to hold
water). We sent them back and received new ones, with a reinforced handle,
no questions asked. The new ones have been used three years in a row,
without another problem.

I don't even want to think about a crew carrying a 2.5 gallon container of
water from Clark's Fork to Tooth Ridge Camp, let alone a 5 gallon one....

 - Al Thomson, Troop 236, Schooley's Mountain NJ
Advisor '99, '01, and '03
Autumn Adventure '00, '02 and '04(?)
B&B '02

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