From: Chromedia (chromeda@rochester.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec 14 2002 - 09:05:17 CST
Jason
Living in Rochester NY, I'm well acquainted with Nalgene (actually the
company's name is Nalge Nunc International, Nalgene is a brand name) since
it's located in my backyard. I'm also acquainted with a number of people who
work there including a few in marketing. A couple years ago, one of my crews
field tested several Nalgene canteen prototypes at Philmont. Based, in part,
on our findings made a few design changes.
Yes, they are very much aware of "lid loop" breaking caused by stress
applied to the tether when carrying the bottles full of fluid. However, as
it was explained to me, increasing the thickness of the tether decreases the
flexibility, and diverts stress to other junctions in the lid. The design is
a happy middle ground of many things including materials v. cost.
As such, there are a number of solutions - you can buy another lid
separately, or Nalge Nunc will replace it for FREE if you follow the
following directions on its web site:
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/caps.html.
And remember "Clear & Copious" is the word!
Jim Whitcomb
Otetiana Council
Rochester NY
PS - I don't work for Nalge Nunc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason A. Cotting" <p2ranger@anvilgear.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: [Philmont]: RE: Nalgene
> I'm sure that Nalgene knows about the lid loop breaking, as many that have
> broken. But that is not what it is intended for. Its made to keep the lid
> with the bottle when you open it. That's it. As I said before, water
bottles
> are not their largest revenue so there is little need for RnD on it.
>
> A little hint. If you get tired of the bottle cap hitting you in the face
or
> having to hold it out of the way when drinking do this. Pull the plastic
> ring off from around the neck. Put it back on upside down. The leash will
> have to be twisted when you put the top on but the cap will naturaly bend
> away from the neck when you drink. Some people like it, I don't.
>
> Outdoor research makes pouches for carrying Nalgenes. Granite gear makes
a
> stuff sack just the right size as well. I had my grandmother sew a piece
of
> 2 inch webbing on it so I could put it on my waist belt for my pack.
>
> Another option for carrying is often used by rock climbers. Get a piece
of
> 1 inch tubular webbing (or just a pice of rope/string) and have it go from
> one side to the other over the top of the bottle. Duct tape it into palce
> and you now have a carrying handle and a sturdy place to clip it on
> something. Also a place for your duct tape useage.
>
> I only have 2 bottles I actually drink out of. One for drink mixes and
sweet
> tea :) The other bottles I own have only had water in them. Only one of
> them do I ever drink out of. I keep the rest secured somewhere so if the
one
> that gets used gets lost or damaged during a trip, I know the others are
> still there.
>
> I've found that one wrapping of duct tape around the circumferance at the
> bottom helps to keep the bottle in my side pockets on my pack. It tends to
> give more friction than the slick Lexan.
>
> Jason
> ><>
> Retired Ranger
>
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> Backpacking/mountainbiking addict
>
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> slavery" - Royal Robbins
>
> My homepage: http://anvilgear.com
> My Resume: http://anvilgear.com/jason/resume
>
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> My AOL IM handle
> rangerp2
>
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