Re: [Philmont] - philmont Digest - V01 #479

From: Carolyn Odell (olympus@frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat Dec 28 2002 - 12:11:48 CST


Regarding Council Philmont Contigent fees:
    Our Council sent out a group to Philmont in 2002. We charged $900 to
each participant. The Council got the Philmont reservations and collected
the individual money. The volunteers did all the rest including obtaining
trainers, scheduling training events, obtaining contigent shirts and hats,
and promotion events and obtaining training equipment. We tried to be very
fiscally conservative and were fairly successful.
    When we got back, we leaders were informed that the Council had imposed
a 15% fee which they had neglected to tell the adult leaders. This would
have been $135 per participant for the Council to do the book work. We had
anticipated about $5 administrative cost and $25 emergency money for each
participant. Note they told this after the fact.
    Needless to say, the Council got lots of bad public relations over this,
and probably lost over $20,000 in a possible donation. It was referred to
as the Enron scandel of Central Illinois.
    Some other troop leaders have indicated that they would never deal with
this Council on a high adventure as they are trying to make a large profit
on this experience.
    I am interested in other individuals reaction to this type of fee and
how it effects their participation in Council high adventure activities.

Jon Odell
Philmont 60,92,02
A good old Bear.

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