[Philmont]: Turkey Bags

Could someone elaborate on how turkey bags are used at Philmont? I've seen several posts referencing them, some saying they were happy with them, others saying they didn't like them.

How are they used and what determines their success on the trail?

Thanks in advance...

Pete Swiggum
Troop 1173
Green Bay, WI
Philmont - July 2005

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  From: Joe Tavares
  To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

  We used a Dragonfly, a Whisperlite and a Simmerlite. Between the two, the Dragonfly was faster to boil and used the fuel more efficiently, the Whisperlite was the most reliable (it would light anywhere) and the Simmerlite could have used a little improvement in both areas but was not bad either. The Dragonfly, other that being a blowtorch, was a very stable stove. We also used Turkey bags and were very happy with the results.

  Joe Tavares
  Troop 728
  Richardson, TX

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  From: owner-Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Garrett, Russ
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:11 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
  Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

  we used Dragonflys last summer. our crew took 2 stoves and 3 standard fuel bottles full. We didn't use all of the fuel. We used the turkey bag approach on shakedowns on and off. The crew voted for them at Philmont and the crew was very pleased with the decision.

  The benefit of the Dragonfly stove could be that it has a wide base for setting the pots on. The larger the pot, but nicer it is that the base is wider. drawback is that it's a little more bulky but not bad when you consider only two for 12 people.

  Russ Garrett

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Troop 6 Scoutmaster [mailto:troop6scoutmaster@comcast.net]
    Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:59 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
    Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

    We used MSR Whisperlites last year ... less expensive than the Simmerlite and you really don't do much simmering at Philmont ... its really all about boiling water ... period. Also, in anticipation of the next question - Had two crews of 12, each arrived at the ranch with 4 22oz fuel bottles, three stoves and a repair kit. Hit the trail with two stoves and three bottles, left a bottle, stove and repair kit in basecamp ... One stove was a spare as we only used one except for one night when we used both. Had plenty of fuel and it was cheap (.04 per oz) in base camp and on the trail. Tried the turkey bag thing with mixed results but I'll leave that to another thread.
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      From: owner-Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-Philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of Gbeaglegolf@aol.com
      Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:01 PM
      To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
      Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

      We used MSR Simmerlite last year and would recommend these. Light 8 oz. and boils a 6 qt. pot in less than 3 minutes. White gas is available at the trading posts on the ranch so you can refill your bottles and not have to carry a full trek supply from base.
      Garry Black
      Troop 718
      Dallas, TX
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