RE: [Philmont]: Turkey Bags

Two ways they are used:
 
Our way was to boil water and then mix the water and the food (mix VERY
well, make sure you get all the edges and corners) in a turkey bag that was
lining the other pot. Then you get rid of the excess air and twist the top
closed, maybe putting a lid on the pot. Wait the appropriate amount of time
(it will take a little longer than the cooking method probably), and serve
it up.
 
The other way is to put about a cup of water in the pot, then the turkey bag
lines the pot (the water in the bottom prevents the bag from burning) and
you then boil the water and mix in the food, continuing to cook on the stove
according to the directions on the food bag.
 
We used method 1 because it ultimately uses less water and less fuel, but it
does use an extra pot. I'm sure other methods exist, but these are the two
we tried on our shakedown and liked the first method best.
 
Joe T
Troop 728
Richardson, TX
 

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From: owner-Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-Philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Swiggum
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:10 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
Subject: [Philmont]: Turkey Bags

Could someone elaborate on how turkey bags are used at Philmont? I've seen
several posts referencing them, some saying they were happy with them,
others saying they didn't like them.
 
How are they used and what determines their success on the trail?
 
Thanks in advance...
 
Pete Swiggum
Troop 1173
Green Bay, WI
Philmont - July 2005
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe <mailto:j.tavares@comcast.net> Tavares
To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont <mailto:Philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

We used a Dragonfly, a Whisperlite and a Simmerlite. Between the two, the
Dragonfly was faster to boil and used the fuel more efficiently, the
Whisperlite was the most reliable (it would light anywhere) and the
Simmerlite could have used a little improvement in both areas but was not
bad either. The Dragonfly, other that being a blowtorch, was a very stable
stove. We also used Turkey bags and were very happy with the results.
 
Joe Tavares
Troop 728
Richardson, TX

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From: owner-Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-Philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Garrett, Russ
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

we used Dragonflys last summer. our crew took 2 stoves and 3 standard fuel
bottles full. We didn't use all of the fuel. We used the turkey bag
approach on shakedowns on and off. The crew voted for them at Philmont and
the crew was very pleased with the decision.
 
The benefit of the Dragonfly stove could be that it has a wide base for
setting the pots on. The larger the pot, but nicer it is that the base is
wider. drawback is that it's a little more bulky but not bad when you
consider only two for 12 people.
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Troop 6 Scoutmaster [mailto:troop6scoutmaster@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

We used MSR Whisperlites last year ... less expensive than the Simmerlite
and you really don't do much simmering at Philmont ... its really all about
boiling water ... period. Also, in anticipation of the next question - Had
two crews of 12, each arrived at the ranch with 4 22oz fuel bottles, three
stoves and a repair kit. Hit the trail with two stoves and three bottles,
left a bottle, stove and repair kit in basecamp ... One stove was a spare as
we only used one except for one night when we used both. Had plenty of fuel
and it was cheap (.04 per oz) in base camp and on the trail. Tried the
turkey bag thing with mixed results but I'll leave that to another thread.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-Philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of Gbeaglegolf@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Back On Topic: Stoves

We used MSR Simmerlite last year and would recommend these. Light 8 oz. and
boils a 6 qt. pot in less than 3 minutes. White gas is available at the
trading posts on the ranch so you can refill your bottles and not have to
carry a full trek supply from base.
Garry Black
Troop 718
Dallas, TX

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