[Philmont]: Philmont Leather belts, TOT brass buckle, and Arrowhead patch

I got my Philmont leather belt and Tooth-of-Time brass buckle while at Philmont years ago as a kid. Now I am an adult Scouter and would like to proudly wear my Philmont belt and buckle. Unfortunately, I am rather large now and the belt no longer first. The Philmont belts offered by Tooth-of-Time Traders only go up to size 50, for the standard $20 "Traditional Philmont hand-stamped leather belt" which is "made by the Bowen family". There is also a "hand-tooled" (What's the differenc between hand-tooled and hand-stamped?) belt for $45 which is "made by a local Cimarron saddle maker", but they only go up to size 46, which isn't even in stock at the moment.

Does anyone know if either the "Bowen family" or the "Cimarron saddle maker" take orders for custom length belts? How can I contact either of them directly? I get nothing related when I google "Bowen family" and "Philmont" and/or "belts".

Also, I have heard that the current brass TOT buckle is not on a par with the older ones. Is this true, and if so, what are the differences? Does that make my older buckle (1970's vintage) collectable? The photo of the new one looks just like I remember my old buckle (now where DID I put that thing?)

Finally, I plan to wear my Arrowhead patch on my shirt, but would like to get a duplicate. However TOT Traders does not sell these. Can you buy extras from Philmont directly? How would one go about getting a replacement?

Thanks!

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Received on Tue Dec 14 01:18:19 2004