RE: [Philmont]: AMTRAK

If you could get eye shades too it would help! I agree the doors opening and
closing (entrance to cars) are noisy noisy and really make it hard to sleep
if close and late at night. After 12 m until 6 am it does settle down pretty
much but still had to sleep just due to train noise. YiS; Jerry D Bailey
(done it twice and hope to do it again!)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Troop 681 scout
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: AMTRAK

I AGREE with the positive comments about taking the train. It gives the
boys an experience they might not get any other way.

We took the train in 1999 AND 2003.............the adults didn't want the
responsibility of driving after10 days on the trail..........THE RISK ZONE.

Food is expensive, but not out of reach for any scout if they plan ahead and

choose wisely. AMTRAK has the meals and prices on their website.

We considered callling a pizza place to have it delivered to the Station in
Albuqueque, but the times didn't work out for us...........BUT is another
option.

Also, Take snacks and a couple drinks. Educate the boys about the
meals/prices and tell them not to blow all their money in the CLUB Car,
which is really more expensive than the dining car.

Other suggestions-- take EAR PLUGS and a good jacket or small blanket (it
gets cold at night), take playing cards, have advisors pack the few knives
you take in an adult's pack, tell the boys the sleeper cars are off limits,
give them an IN THE SEAT curfew at night, get seats in the middle of the car

---------people go in and out the car all night and the doors are noisy.

>From LA to Albuqueque there is a native America guide who presents a
historical/geological, interpretive talk in the Club Car. There are also
MOVIES.

The train is a great way to allow the boys some freedom, but with limits.

troop681@hotmail.com
           (click here to reply to ME)

Kim Pigorsch
Membership Chairmun (sic)
and Eagle Scout Advisor

Troop 681

San Diego, CA

>From: Herbert Dulzo <hadulzo@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: AMTRAK
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:13:50 -0800 (PST)
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>We took the train from Chicago in 2002. The boys had a blast. I decided
>the seats weren't really designed for sleeping. The beauty of Amtrak is
>the flexability of the reservation. I led the contingent and was able to
>adjust the ticket reservation up to 30 days before. Also two adults
>couldn't handle the trail. They hiked back to base camp, changed their
>reservation and went home. Try to do that with an air line. For groups
>you get one free adult for X number of students. Plan on taking the train
>again in 2006.
>
>Herb Dulzo
>Chicago Area Council
>
>"H.V. Nawlin" <Hnawlin@gerdauameristeel.com> wrote:
>I'm on vacation and will return 12/27
>
> >>> philmont 12/18/04 10:57 >>>
>
>May I get some information in train travel from St.
>Louis, Mo. to Philmont area? I have looked at the
>AMTRAK web site and saw the time tables...I would like
>to hear from people who have done the trip or who have
>traveled by train to Philmont. Maybe the on train
>services[food,drinks,sleeping accommodations].
>
>R Chaney
>ASM T671
>St. Louis Mo.
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