Re: [Philmont]: Tooth Ridge Trail

I had to smile at Robbie's quote at the end. I wonder how many folks
will recognize it?

commissionerdave@comcast.net wrote:
> I forwarded Jason's (the retired ranger who rangered my PTC Class on
> High Adventure Trek Planning in 2001) E-mail this thread to my three
> time Philmont staffer daughter and here is her response -
>
> Here's my answer. I"m forwarding the original e-mail to Robbie so he may
> send his 2 cents as well.
>
> Here's the info as it was understood by PTC as of summer '05 (staff who
> called logistics to ask if they needed to reroute the crews attempting
> stockade) from a recent staffer:
>
> Tooth Ridge Trail is long. It's also the safest.
> It is also the 'official trail' that crews are supposed to take down.
>
> Pasture trail and Stockade trail are not crew trails. They are ranger
> trails and used for Rayado, possibly OATC and other 'special' treks.
> PTC does use pasture for TB3 all day hike.
>
> Pasture trail is slightly overgrown at the end where it meets the
> jeep road. Though less so after summer 05' then the 2 summers prior.
> Thanks to the new maps including pasture trail on them.
> Stockade is literally straight up and down. Not safe with a full pack
> and nearly impossible to do in a manner other than running/falling down
> or sliding down on the bum. The knees of many strong hikers have
> regretted it.
>
> Plus, for those who don't have a bus or car @ Lovers Leap
> turn around...they get to walk to turnaround road and the main road.
> which yes is a Death march, one which even filling your water bottles @
> the Stockade will not provide you with enough water for.
>
> Why anyone would want to be on disgusting road versus their last chance
> to see all of the mountains from the far side of Tooth Ridge one last
> time...I'll never understand.
>
> Though as a staffer I have opted many a time for the other trails.
>
> So do the advisors knees a favor, teach the crew some patience, and try
> to appreciate the mountains one last time - take Tooth Ridge on a crew
> trek.
> Dare the kids to come back as staff/Rayado/OATC/etc and time themselves
> on Stockade at that time.
>
> And from her friend Robbie, another multi-year staffer
>
> On Jason's E-mail -
> This is possibly the most intelligent email in the history of email.
>
> On Tooth Ridge trail
> Well I am looking, I am searching, I have found near the ground my soul,
> myself. Beneath this trail.
>
> Dave Lyons
> Treks - 1997, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006-717E-5
> PTC - 1991, 1994, 1999, 2001 (twice), 2003, 2005
>
>
>

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Received on Thu Dec 8 04:46:47 2005