I would add that bringing forth information about respiratory challenges is of the highest importance when looking at maladies which might affect the crew. "A little bit of bronchitis" can easily manifest itself as full-blown asthma on the trail. If the Advisors know about it well in advance, most times it can be managed. I'm not sure why, but this one turns out to be the biggest surprise so many times. The lungs just work differently at 500 feet vs. 7500 feet and everyone has to be aware that an occasional problem can suddenly rear its ugly head in the form of limited pulmonary capacity very quickly.
I'm a little sensitive to this particular thing because, while I have asthma and take outstanding preventives (and have zero problem to date at Philmont), those that have "just a touch" rarely look at preventives, choosing to go there with an emergency inhaler.
Regarding the other acronyms (not sure what the E.D. one stands for and am afraid to ask), most of the troop scouters that camp are probably already aware of the behavioral maladies. I have to concern myself with Crew and Advisors and their physical state (weight, BP, and asthma) more than anything else.
-- Joe Tavares NOTICE: This email is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorized use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this email is not permitted without my expressed permission. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Feurtado, Walter C." <wfeurtado@atsva.com> > I believe that the most important factor is that the hiker WANTS to go > to Philmont (his choice). This WANT must be derived from inside and not > influenced by others (parents or peers). When the hiker wants to go to > Philmont, they are willing to do the following: > 1. Be willing to lose weight and get in shape. > 2. Be willing to hike together as a crew and not try to > split the crew. > 3. Attend mandatory training. > > The second factor is that the hiker has reached a certain level of > maturity to the extent that they are aware of cause and affect. While > goofing off is fun, if you are 5 miles from help, if somebody gets hurt, > who carries them out? Maturity also reveals itself additionally by: > 1. Being willing to drink the water and stay hydrated. > 2. Being willing to eat the food. > 3. Being willing to stay clean (washing body and clothes > daily). > 4. Being able to self-medicate. > > The third factor is that the hiker must be willing to work as a member > of the crew or as the leader. Taking scouts that have to be constantly > prodded to do their chores indicate that while they would like to go to > Philmont, they are not ready to participate in the Philmont experience. > > Finally, each parent must be willing to discuss any issues with the crew > leader such as A.D.D., A.D.H.D, L.D., and E.D. This type of information > is required to best know how to work with a hiker. It is not for crew > knowledge, just for advisors. > > Just my thoughts. > > Wally > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On > Behalf Of Pete Swiggum > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list philmont > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: What makes a good crew? > > Dr. Bob and others, > This meeting is for Scouts, crew advisors and parents. The purpose of > the > meeting is to offer practical advice and answer gear, itinerary and > logistics questions related to the trip out, the experience at Philmont > and > the trip home. We'll discuss trek planning, practice and shakedown > hikes, > as well as crew and advisor responsibilities. > > We'll also be covering all travel, as well as sharing a comprehensive > gear > review on what is, and what isn't, needed on the trail. > > The meeting will last about one and a half hours. > > Any important words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated, probably > moreso > than information related to gear and trek logistics. > > An example of something I'll be sharing with the group is "Expedition > Behavior" by Howard Tomb. It was something I got off this forum prior > to > our trip last summer. It's the one that begins with Rule #1: "Get the > heck > out of bed!" I think information like this can be more helpful than the > > gear and trek information. > > Pete Swiggum > Troop 1173 > Green Bay > Peter.Swiggum(at)sbcglobal(dot)net > Philmont 2005 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org> > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: What makes a good crew? > > > > How long a meeting? How much time will YOU get, and how much will be > > dedicated to administrivia? Is this the ONLY meeting, or just one of > > several (and if so, how many)? > > > > The more details on the parameters, the better advice you'll get.... > > > > > > > > Pete Swiggum wrote: > >> This is an email primarily for Coop, but if anyone else has something > to > >> add, I'd welcome it wholeheartedly. > >> In January, I'll be leading the parent / crew meeting for our > council's > >> Philmont contingents for 2006. Although I was an advisor for one of > our > >> Philmont crews this past summer, I'm clearly not as experienced as > many > >> of you. I'm just someone willing and able to lead the meeting in > order > >> to help properly prepare the crews and parents for next summer's trip > to > >> Philmont. > >> Coop, according to your message below from last April, you have a > >> training session entitled "Avoiding One Year Wonder Crews". If you > would > >> be so kind as to forward any information related to that training > >> session, I would appreciate it greatly. > >> To anyone else on the list who's done the same thing I'm about to do > in > >> January, any program outlines and thoughts on what to cover would be > >> appreciated. I have an outline that our council has done over the > last > >> few years and it's certainly a good one. I'm just looking to share > as > >> much pertinent information as possible and your thoughts are > important to > >> me. > >> Thanks in advance. > >> Pete Swiggum > >> Troop 1173 > >> Green Bay > >> Peter.Swiggum@sbcglobal.net <mailto:Peter.Swiggum@sbcglobal.net> > >> Philmont 2005 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: CoopWright@aol.com <mailto:CoopWright@aol.com> > >> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont > >> <mailto:philmont@troop47.com> > >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:20 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: What makes a good crew? > >> > >> I have a session entitled "Avoiding One Year Wonder Crews" that I > >> put together for the Northeast Region's Venture Quest that will > be > >> held in Dillsburg, PA, May 6-8, that I would be happy to send out > to > >> folks that wanted to see it. > >> > >> Cooper Wright > >> Associate Advisor, Crew 1519 > >> Warrenton, VA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe at http://usscouts.org/lists/ > > Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com > > Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com > > List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp > > List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow > > Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, > > loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, > > cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: > 12/16/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe at http://usscouts.org/lists/ > Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp > ------------------------------------------------------- > Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com > Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com > List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp > List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com > ------------------------------------------------------- > As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow > Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, > loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, > cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe at http://usscouts.org/lists/ > Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp > ------------------------------------------------------- > Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com > Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com > List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp > List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com > ------------------------------------------------------- > As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow > Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, > loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, > cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe at http://usscouts.org/lists/ Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp ------------------------------------------------------- Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com ------------------------------------------------------- As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. -------------------------------------------------------Received on Tue Dec 20 17:02:49 2005
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