[philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

That was how I read it when it came out, but I was soundly disagreed with on
this list that it meant that. It is sounding, however, that this reading,
need to be on the list all four years before priority, may be the case. The
consensus here was it meant ANY of the four years, not ALL of the four
years.
Don

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> From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of
> Bill Summers
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:32 PM
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> Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery
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> <<<Finally, does the priority ONLY apply to those who where
> waitlisted ALL
> four years above? It is my suspicion that is what was actually meant.
> Penalizes those who decided not to try one year.>>>
>
> That's how I read it. You only get a benefit if you applied and were
> waitlisted each of those years.
>
> Bill Summers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On
> Behalf Of Donald
> S. Roberts
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:47 PM
> To: philmont List Member
> Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery
>
> Okay, now that we are getting lottery results, let's see if
> we can quantify
> whether the prioritized lottery is actually improving the
> chances of those
> who have been missing out in the past.
>
> As a reminder, here is the priority policy that was presented
> in the 2008
> registration procedure:
>
> Special Note: Boy Scout Troops,
> Varsity Teams and Venture Crews who have officially been on
> the waiting list
> for the past four years (2007, 2006, 2005,
> 2004) will be given priority treatment. These units will enter the
> reservation system before all other reservation requests
> are randomly considered. Units who should have been eligible
> for this offer
> but found alternate ways to allow their youth
> members to participate (i.e. participated in a Council
> Contingent or joined
> another unit and participated as part of their
> reservation) should voluntarily withdraw from the 2008
> reservation system
> and honor the minimum participation
> requirement of every other year.
>
> Our troop entered the lottery for treks in 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2008.
> They got a trek in 2003 under the old phone in system. So,
> though they were
> on the wait list in 2005, it appears the gap may have made a
> difference.
> The were on the 2007 wait list (1400+). They got waitlisted
> again in 2008.
>
> Does that mean no troop that was not waitlisted in a prior
> year got a trek
> (first data point to gather)? If your unit got a trek and
> wasn't on that
> list above, please post something so we can know if this
> prioritizing even
> works. Put in your requested dates, as it may be there just wasnt an
> overlap (we CAN'T start before June 20 as school is still in for us).
>
> Another ambiguity above was whether multiple waitlisting, and
> consecutive
> multiple waitlisting mattered. It is possible our Troop
> could have been put
> on a shot for a trek for two seperate waitlist occurances.
> Did the fact we
> elected not to try for a 2006 trek mean we gave up priority?
> If you were
> multiple year waitlisted and got (or didn't get) a trek, let
> us know that
> one too.
>
> Our crew got a trek on their first try, 2005. They were
> waitlisted in 2007
> and got a trek in 2008. Does getting on the waitlist in any
> of those four
> years get you a priority? Does getting a trek after one of
> those years
> knock off credit for the prior waitlist?
>
> Finally, does the priority ONLY apply to those who where
> waitlisted ALL four
> years above? It is my suspicion that is what was actually
> meant. Penalizes
> those who decided not to try one year.
>
> Let's gather some stats so we can get a good picture of
> whether, and how,
> this priority treatment is working.
>
> THanks for all your input on this.
> Don Roberts
> Fullerton, CA
> Philtrek 03, 05
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