The Phil-list Dec_2006: [philmont] Typing between filling prescr

From: Pete Swiggum <Peter.Swiggum@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue Dec 05 2006 - 20:23:29 CST

Hey Shane,
We can gladly wait until you're not busy filling prescriptions. I only speak for myself, but I'm sure the others will agree... the Philmont list server members don't want a wrong prescription going to Grandma simply because your mind was wandering to thoughts of azure skies and Scouting paradise. :-)

Pete Swiggum
Crew 9404
Green Bay, WI
Philmont 2005
ICWTGBTP!!

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Shane Hoffman
  To: philmont List Member
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:01 PM
  Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

I must apologize. I was at work when I wrote my earlier post and was in between filling prescriptions.

Troop 445 did not wait list in 03 and 06 due to trekking in 02 and 05. Troop 445's consecutive wait list years are 07 and 08.

The info for Crew 445 is correct.

Shane Hoffman

"We should all realize that every right implies a responsibility, every opportunity an obligation, every position a duty, and that the most effective sermon is expressed in deeds instead of words." ~ Waite Phillips

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  From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Allen Jones
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:15 PM
  To: philmont List Member
  Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

By the criteria, you were wait listed all 4 years 04 to 07, so you should have been at the top of list. Not sure how you were waitlisted in 03, since you trekked in 02.

----- Original Message -----

From: mycales@tx.rr.com

To: philmont List Member

Cc: Donald S. Roberts

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:24 PM

Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

Here is my not so scientific data for the class project:

Troop 445 - trek in 02, wait list 03, wait list 04, trek in 05, wait list in 06, wait list in 07, wait list in 08

Crew 445 (chartered in 2004) - wait list in 06, wait list in 07, trek in 08

The "prioritizing" seemed to work for our Venture Crew. If the pattern holds, the Troop should get a reservation in 09 or 10...

    Shane Hoffman
    81/84/00/02/05/08
    ASM Troop 445 - www.troop445.org
    Advisor Crew 445 - www.crew445.org (website horribly out of date...)

    ---- "Donald S. Roberts" <donald@hummellawfirm.com> wrote:
    Okay, now that we are getting lottery results, let's see if we can quantify
    whether the prioritized lottery is actually improving the chances of those
    who have been missing out in the past.

As a reminder, here is the priority policy that was presented in the 2008
registration procedure:

    Special Note: Boy Scout Troops,
    Varsity Teams and Venture Crews who have officially been on the waiting list
    for the past four years (2007, 2006, 2005,
    2004) will be given priority treatment. These units will enter the
    reservation system before all other reservation requests
    are randomly considered. Units who should have been eligible for this offer
    but found alternate ways to allow their youth
    members to participate (i.e. participated in a Council Contingent or joined
    another unit and participated as part of their
    reservation) should voluntarily withdraw from the 2008 reservation system
    and honor the minimum participation
    requirement of every other year.

    Our troop entered the lottery for treks in 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2008.
    They got a trek in 2003 under the old phone in system. So, though they were
    on the wait list in 2005, it appears the gap may have made a difference.
    The were on the 2007 wait list (1400+). They got waitlisted again in 2008.

    Does that mean no troop that was not waitlisted in a prior year got a trek
    (first data point to gather)? If your unit got a trek and wasn't on that
    list above, please post something so we can know if this prioritizing even
    works. Put in your requested dates, as it may be there just wasnt an
    overlap (we CAN'T start before June 20 as school is still in for us).

    Another ambiguity above was whether multiple waitlisting, and consecutive
    multiple waitlisting mattered. It is possible our Troop could have been put
    on a shot for a trek for two seperate waitlist occurances. Did the fact we
    elected not to try for a 2006 trek mean we gave up priority? If you were
    multiple year waitlisted and got (or didn't get) a trek, let us know that
    one too.

    Our crew got a trek on their first try, 2005. They were waitlisted in 2007
    and got a trek in 2008. Does getting on the waitlist in any of those four
    years get you a priority? Does getting a trek after one of those years
    knock off credit for the prior waitlist?

    Finally, does the priority ONLY apply to those who where waitlisted ALL four
    years above? It is my suspicion that is what was actually meant. Penalizes
    those who decided not to try one year.

Let's gather some stats so we can get a good picture of whether, and how,
this priority treatment is working.

    THanks for all your input on this.
    Don Roberts
    Fullerton, CA
    Philtrek 03, 05

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