[philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

From: Mike Hirschi <mch@uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed Dec 06 2006 - 11:11:52 CST

In reading the posts, and having a trek in 2008 with a unit that didn't even
try in 05-07, I'm struck that there are also a couple other possibilities.
We had a choice of dates for the system to consider for our treks, so if all
available dates selected were already gone when a unit was selected, they
would have to be waitlisted even if other, unselected, dates were still
available. Further, units like mine, with a single crew requested, can fill
gaps in a daily schedule that larger multi-crew contingents cannot.
 
Just a thought for explaining conflicts in the "data".
 
Good discussion.
 
Thx,
 
M.

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From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Donald
S. Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:53 AM
To: philmont List Member
Subject: [philmont] Philmont 2008 - Priority in Lottery

I don't think you read his post correctly. The Troop got a trek in 05, so
they were only waitlisted consecutively two years, 06 and 07, same as their
Crew.
The policy from Philmont does not include years before 04, so those don't
matter. However, under the old phone in system, I don't recall ever seeing
checks and balances on the application process as to consecutive year treks,
that seemed to get caught when you actually got a trek. It was sort of an
honor system thing then, the internet process catches it now.
 
The data seems to support hte fact that you have to be waitlisted all four
years, 04-07 to get priority as we have units reporting in with no waitlist
at all getting a trek and once or twice waitlisted not getting a trek. So
far, we only have one troop that claims to have failed with the four year
criteria, but that poster (haven't succeeded since 1999) did not say they
were actually on the waitlist all four years, so I don't know if that is a
data point or not. If they were waitlisted, offered a trek when their
number came up, but could not go on the short notice, I think that would
have taken them out of the priority potential. We just don't have the facts
on that one.

From: Allen Jones
By the criteria, you were wait listed all 4 years 04 to 07, so you should
have been at the top of list. Not sure how you were waitlisted in 03, since
you trekked in 02.

----- Original Message -----
From: mycales@tx.rr.com
Troop 445 - trek in 02, wait list 03, wait list 04, trek in 05, wait list in
06, wait list in 07, wait list in 08

Crew 445 (chartered in 2004) - wait list in 06, wait list in 07, trek in 08

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