[philmont] Recommendations on Boots?

Crocs? not again!!!
Seriously, before I went on my trek this past summer
I read the many,many, many posts some nearly religious in their love or
hatred for this footwear.
So, I took a pair. I did not cook in them (adults are on vacation --
so we did not cook).
 
I like them for the most part except when walking to our conservation
project -- I kept getting little rocks say the size of a dime to the
size of a quarter in them.
 
Hike in them? Well if a bear stole them in the night and not one person
had a pair of running shoes in my size sure. Boot blow out? I'd use
duct tape and repair!
 
YiS
Sam Taylor ASM T89
 
Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance

>>> On 06-Dec-07 at 4:58 AM, in message
<MDAEMON-F200712060458.AA5851830pd50004877451@troop47.com>, "Karen
Kelly" <kkelly421@comcast.net> wrote:
Kirk,
 
The great thing about that strap on the Crocs is using it to hang them
on the outside of your pack. They are definitely weather-proof and then
they aren't taking up valuable space inside the pack. Just a
thought...
 

Karen Kelly
Troop 185
Waterford, MI
Philmont 2006 (21) & 2008 (?)

"Only she who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible." - Robin
Morgan
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kirk maes
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:16 PM
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Subject: [philmont] Recommendations on Boots?

I will be taking my crocs!

I cut the straps off because I like them that way ( I will claim the
idea as a weight reduction method for the list however). My crocs are
of the type that don't have holes in the top so they are possibly safer
for the occasional hot water cooking accident than my running shoes
(which are just fabric on the top and would trap hot water and be harder
to get off than crocs without straps.) The crocs actually weigh very
little, (345 grams for the pair without straps) (12 oz for you non
metric old guys - LaBlanc not included of course) I may also take a
crazy creek chair and a bunch of M&M as motivational treats along the
trail so a little extra weight doesn't scare me to bad. (I will regret
this thought as I search for a cell phone signal atop Baldy in June.)

I will probably also take my Asics gell nimbus running shoes as a real
back up shoe in case of a boot blowout The Asics will make a much better
camp shoe for the modest day hikes and hikes to the adviser's coffee's
etc. I will probably just bite the bullet on the extra 3/4 lb.for my
crocs because I like them and they are so comfortable and easy to bomb
around in. My asics weigh 800 grams for the pair ( 28 oz) which to me
seems like a lot for a back up shoe plan that I may not need. I may
work out a plan with the other adviser who wears the same size shoe and
one or two of the bigger scouts with similar foot size to share the
single pair of Asics as the "community backup shoes" for a boot blowout.
I will try convince them to take their crocs as their primary camp shoe.

Has anyone ever tried to set up a small allotment of shoes as"crew gear
" for the possible boot blowout. I suspect having 3 or 4 pairs of good
running shoes per crew of 12 with everyone having light weight crocs as
the primary camp shoe might be a good plan. Enough kids and adults may
be close enough in shoe size to make this work.Has anyone ever seen or
heard of more than one boot blowout in a single crew on a single trek?
I'm sure it has happened but I would guess it is pretty rare.

12 pairs of crocs and 4 pair of Asics together weigh 7340g . 12 pair
of Asics weigh 9600g. Thats 2260g more which is nearly 5 lbs savings for
the crew in total. That may be worth the trouble.

I am a big fan of troop and crew gear. Anything that can be made into
crew gear rather than individual gear helps to build team working skills
for the crew and usually saves space and weight. The better the crew
works together as a team ( on camp duties for example) the quicker work
gets done and the more time is left over for enjoying programs or free
time.

Kirk Maes
503 vero beach fl
phil of the future 6/26/08

On Dec 5, 2007 8:03 PM, Roy Fisher <rfisher003@satx.rr.com > wrote:

Just to get the pot stirred up – CROCS!
 
Seriously Jim,
 
That's kind of like asking for a recommendation on a car or football
team.
 
I would recommend that you look at some of the gear guides that are
available – backpacker.com ( http://backpacker.com/ ), gorp.com (
http://gorp.com/ ), backpackgear test.org ( http://test.org/ ) and
there are numerous others – and read through some of the offerings.
Backpacker magazine will publish their Gear Guide issue in March if you
want to wait that long; it should be on the newsstands by mid February.
 The main thing is that the boots fit and are well broken in on the
person who will be wearing them at Philmont.
 
Happy Trails
 
Roy Fisher
 
Hello all,
I am leading a crew in August of 08.
 
Any recommendations on boots and footwear from the group?
 

Yours In Scouting Service,
Jim Zeszutek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gateway Boy Scout Assistant District Commissioner
Southeast Wisconsin Council
Boy Scouts Of America

 
 
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