The Phil-list Dec_2007: [Philmont] List bullies .... getting rea

From: Larry Daniell <daniellhome@comcast.net>
Date: Thu Dec 20 2007 - 11:10:28 CST

I don't get it......what's wrong with juice boxes?

Merry Christmas :-)

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From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Liechty
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:53 AM
To: Philmont List Member
Subject: [Philmont] List bullies .... getting ready for the 2008 "new
people"

Interesting chat about some other list moderator attitude as compared to
that of the Philmont list.

I subscribe to a lot of e-mail lists (probably over 100) and have been
doing so for over 10 years now. So this is a topic I am an "expert" with.

Most lists have a few people who post a majority of the messages and can
play "rough" with each other. That is the case on this list as well.
Those of us who are thick skinned or thick headed get along fine with
taking the topics hard and honest.

The challenge comes when a new person asks what may be seen as a silly
question like "I am going to take my Tiger den to the Tooth of Time
should I take one or two juice boxes per boy".

Instead of trying to help the person in a kind and gentle manner some
people unload with both barrels. The result is that the bully feels
good, the den leader quits the list and everyone else gets a good laugh
at the idiot that should never have been on the list or at the camp in
the first place.

List management is OK with that here. This is not a nice place to visit
for new people and as such you better come armed with a thick skin. We
have the same kind of issue with people who launch off-list attacks at
new people on Scouts-L.

If I were king the bully would be tossed from the list no matter what
else they contribute. There is a lot of chance to discuss tiger cubs
and juice boxes without unloading on the new member who does not have a
chance to get their footing before we blast them.

I saw this last year when the new people came .... and went .... and
expect that we will see it this year as well.

My hope is that when you feel the need to unload on the idiot who does
not deserve to be on your trail that you think of them as your wife,
mother, helpless uncle who is trying to do a good thing. How would you
want them to be treated?

There is no doubt that many of the thick skinned on this list would have
run my wife out very early in her questions. Shew would not learn
anything at all from you or your tones. Not what you wanted and not
what they came to ask for.

Just a thought as we prepare for another wonderful new year.

Note: Troop meeting last week focused on getting the newer scouts ready
for their first campout. Some of the dumbest ideas ever came up.......
except I made many of those same mistakes myself.

Mark

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