[Philmont] List Bullies .... Getting Ready for the 2008 "new people"

To set the Record Straight I: I am not now, nor have I ever been, the
Philmont List Moderator. Nor have I ever so stated or implied.

To set the Record Straight II: I strongly discourage the use of "false
information and nasty methods...on the Philmont List as a way to have
good discussions." I believe my record as a peacemaker and calming
influence is clear, as are my remarks over the past 2 days. In keeping
with those remarks, I will not further respond to these comments.

- Dr. Bob Klein, Scoutmaster, Troop 111, Arlington, VA

kevinaldrich@insightbb.com wrote:
> Typically I ignore inflammatory email but since I've been misrepresented
> I'm responding.
>
> Guess who asked the "dig-bat" question. Me. I'm disappointed with Dr.
> Bob's response encouraging that false information and nasty methods be
> used on the Philmont list as a way to have good discussions.. But as the
> moderator and a recognized authority on Philmont Dr. Bob has that
> privilege.
>
> Here are my concerns. One, is a person who presents themselves as an
> expert and then provides inaccurate information and does so in a mean
> manner. I thought a Scout was a friend to all. The result is that the
> person looses credibility with me and I don't trust the information they
> provide because I don't trust their intent.
>
> What was inaccurate? First, if you go to the canoe list you will find
> that Mr. LeBlanc was not removed by the moderator. But on this list he
> claims he was removed from the canoe list.
>
> Second, the information that Mr. LeBlanc represents in his note below
> concerning my posting and question is inaccurate. My question to the
> canoe list was about how to turn the trek planning, as much as possible,
> over to Scouts who are going on 13 and are not yet 16 or 17 years old.
> Instead of responding to the question Mr. LeBlanc attacked me because in
> his opinion 12 & 13 year old Scouts should only do weekend campouts. I
> have received 7 emails privately with encouragement and great
> suggestions and guidance, but these Scouters choose not to respond to
> the list because of the vehemence from Mr. LeBlanc. Several other Scouts
> responded positively on the list.
>
> Another concern is why have a moderated list if the moderator doesn't
> moderate. Expressions such as Mr. LeBlanc's, " . . . dig-bat inquiry . .
> . " and, ". . . sanctimonious self appointed God . . . " are not only
> hurtful and inflammatory but contrary to our Scout Law because they are
> unhelpful, unfriendly, and unkind.
>
> I belong to both the Philmont list and the Canoe list and will continue
> to do so because after I weed through the nasty responses from the
> self-appointed experts there are usually a few good pieces of good
> information that make it worth my while. And now and then I get a good
> laugh.
>
> Trying not to take myself too seriously, I am
>
> Kevin Aldrich, only a Dig-Bat
>
>

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Received on Fri Dec 21 17:10:14 2007