From: David Johnson (djohnson28@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Feb 27 2002 - 09:05:50 CST
As a licensed Ham Radio operator, I felt compelled to
respond to some of the comments being made about ham
radio usage at Philmont. If you are licensed as a Ham
Radio Operator you know what frequencies you can
utilize and what frequencies you can't. As long as a
frequency is listed as an "OPEN REPEATER" then it is
available to use by any licensed ham radio operator.
The ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League) can point anyone
in the right direction to get such listings of open
repeaters anywhere in the world, including New Mexico.
That being said I also would like to add my own
opinions....
1. If you feel the need to take a radio and your crew
has no problem with it then take it...just let the
Philmont staff know. They will let you know what
frequencies are available and what frequencies are
"off limits" and proper protocol in the backcountry so
it does not interfere with their vital communications.
2. Know the common rules of radio use - emergency
traffic, proper identification, "short" conversations,
proper terminology...etc.
3. As a ham radio operator, I enjoy the hobby a great
deal and love to talk with other people from around
the world and think its fine for anyone so inclined to
bring their radio and enjoy it in such a beautiful
location with people from around the world...just
follow the rules so you don't spoil it for the rest of
us.
Finally, will I be taking my radio? No
Will I be taking a cell phone? No
Will I be taking a GPS? No
Will it bother me if someone else does? No as long as
they follow the rules and they don't intrude upon my
enjoyment of a slice of heaven on earth (Philmont...in
case you didn't figure it out already....)
Thanks for the opportunity and I enjoy the comments.
Philmont 2001 and going back in 2003.....
David Johnson
Orange County, CA
Venture Advisor
--- philmont-request@troop47.com wrote:
> philmont Digest Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:03:01 -0600
> V01 #135
>
> Today's topics:
> 'Openings for Trek 625-E'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @ Philmont'
> 'Re: Philmont Message Board (GENERAL): Bivy
> Sacks'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @ Philmont'
> 'Philmont - Trekking Poles'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @
> Philmont'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Openings for Trek 625-E'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @
> Philmont'
> 'Re: Trek guides'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Re: Philmont Message Board
> (GENERAL): Bivy Sacks'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @
> Philmont'
> 'Rain Gear'
> 'RE: [Philmont]: Rain Gear'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Rain Gear'
>
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:01:13 -0500
> From: "Jay L. Lenrow" <jlenrow@lkho.com>
> Subject: Openings for Trek 625-E
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Troop 18 of Owings Mills, Maryland has openings for
> boys and adults for
> Trek 625-E, kicking off on Tuesday, June 25, 2002.
> Trek 625-E will have
> Kosher food during the trek.
>
> If you have an interest, please contact me as soon
> as possible.
>
> YiS,
>
> Jay L. Lenrow
> Vice Chairman for Planned Giving, Baltimore Area
> Council
> Council FOS Chairman, Baltimore Area Council
> Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 18, Owings Mills,
> Maryland
> Trek Leader - Trek 625-E - Philmont 2002
> First Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 504, Jambo 2001
> Member, National Jewish Committee on Scouting
> I used to be a Buffalo (NE IV-123) but Ill always
> be an Eagle (Class of
> 1966)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:21:40
> From: "Douglas Fasching" <palisade14@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @
> Philmont
>
>
> In my experience, the frequencies Philmont uses are
> not publically
> available. Some people have brought radios and
> subsequently sniffed out the
> frequencies to listen in and I suppose nominally
> have them available for
> emergencies.
>
> Philmont preferes Crews NOT to broadcast on their
> frequencies from personal
> radios for a number of reasons:
> -Personal radios do not always have the power to
> pick up all radio traffic
> and it is possible for one to step on another more
> important transmission
> -the Staff are are trained in how to handle
> emergencies and how to
> accurately communicate these to the Healthlodge or
> Base Camp; Crews are not
>
> Having been on a number of treks, I can't imagine a
> truly practical reason
> to carry one. Potentially in an emergency they
> could be useful, but
> realistically the chances that any crew will have
> that level of need is
> unlikely.
>
> Since the other bi-annual thread on this list
> concerns weight and how to
> take it off (body and pack) I would suggest leaving
> the radio at home.
>
> Enjoy!
> Douglas Fasching
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:42:26 -0600
> From: "Larry Stout" <larry@cms-stl.com>
> Subject: Re: Philmont Message Board (GENERAL): Bivy
> Sacks
>
>
> The "Guidebook to Adventure" clearly states that
> everyone must sleep in a tent.
> This eliminates the Bivy Sacks. It also states that
> all tents must be two-man (
> two-person ? ;-) ) tents. That would eliminate
> one-man bivy tents as well. In
> 2001 I carried what was called a two-man bivy and
> slept alone, as did the other
> adults in our crew. No problem and the weight was
> only about 5#. I really
> appreciated the extra room and privacy. If you go
> with a bivy, I strongly
> recommend one with aluminum poles. They are lighter
> than fiberglass, and after
> repeated bending during the trek, we had a couple of
> fiberglass poles begin to
> de-laminate and crack.
>
> APLS Mountaineering has a new 2-man Mystique bivy
> style tent that I would highly
> recommend. Scouts get a 45% discount which makes the
> price about $ 70.00. Check
> them out at their WEB site
> APLSMOUNTAINEERING.COM. Our troop has purchased
> several items from them and
> have never been disappointed.
>
> I would also recommend going to the Scouts only site
> www.ScoutDirect.com This
> give you a lot more information regarding the
> scouting programs offered by ALPS.
> They have one program which allows you to purchase
> items at a 60% discount of of
> list. I think it would be worth your time to
> investigate. I have no financial
> interest in APLS. Just a very satisfied customer.
>
> Good Luck !!
>
> Larry Stout
> St. Charles, MO.
> I used to be an Owl
> Goin' back in 2003
>
>
>
> messageboard@philmont.com wrote:
>
> > I was reading somewhere no bivy sacks allowed
> because bears might mistake
> > it for a log or something. I can't remember now
> if it was Philmont or
> > not.
> > What's the scoop on that?
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:43:15 -0600
> From: "Signe Rogers" <HikinMama@iglide.net>
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Repeater frequency @
> Philmont
>
>
> If one feels that they *must* have their own
> available emergency contact
> device, it would be better to take a cell phone. At
> the advisor's meeting
> last summer, they had a prepared list of cell phone
> numbers to take on the
> trail. For example, if one were to dial 911 from
> the top of Baldy, that
> call would land up on Colorado where the switchboard
> operator probably
> wouldn't have a clue where you were calling from.
> Direct-access
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