Re: [Philmont]: Of course morse code IS dead - and - thoughts on pack weight

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From: Alan R. Hamm (ahamm@alanhamm.com)
Date: Tue Feb 11 2003 - 10:56:30 CST

Unless you troop is "expert" at backpacking and packing light, expect pack
weights to be at least 45 lbs total. They may very will start off over 50.
We were an experienced backpacking troop and continually cut things down
during shakedowns, but those were the weights we ended up with. I was
amazed when I put it on the scale at Philmont. My son was about 110 lbs and
his pack was 48.

Alan Hamm
Bethesda, MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "w.keller" <wkeller@www.mebbs.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: [Philmont]: Of course morse code IS dead - and - thoughts on pack
weight

> Let me see if I can stir the pot a bit LOL
>
> Of course Morse code is dead, just like:
>
> A single match fire - use a lighter.
> Fire without a match - use a lighter.
> Compass navigation - use a GPS.
> Reading the weather - use a barometric watch.
> Altoids Radios (the hams will know) - use a satellite phone.
>
> OK, that's my point. There are always quicker, easier ways to do things.
> In fact, I am a tech head from years back. And, I use all these toys:
GPS,
> Barometric watch, cell phones and a Yeasu FT-817. However, that does not
> supersede teaching our troop the basics - go into the wilderness with your
> survival kit and thrive, not just survive.
>
> I now step down off the soap box.
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> Pack weight. We are having a number of boys look at new packs for
Philmont.
> I have heard the rule of thumb of 4500 cu minimum mentioned in various
> spots, and on this list chatter that troop gear averages 24 lbs per scout.
> Is any of this accurate?? We have a couple of scouts that will be lucky
to
> tip 100 lbs next summer even though they will be approaching 15. We have
> been pushing a 20lb base pack weight, but with 24 lb troop gear, it could
> get interesting.
>
> Just curious what you folks have experienced.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill Keller
> WB8YHL
> http://troop47.com
> http://wb8yhl.com
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