Re: [Philmont]: Youth or Adult?

From: Calvin H. Gray <405geezer@igg-tx.net>
Date: Tue Feb 24 2004 - 13:57:33 CST

> I've seen this discussion several times before, but now I have a
> specific situation that I'd like some help with. We have two crews
> going this summer. One of our scouts turned 18 last October and just
> had his Eagle COH this past Sunday. He and his father are going to
> Philmont with us this.
>
> Can we consider him a youth member? Or is he an adult? We have 8
> members (at least) on this crew, if he's an adult, he'd be the fourth
> one. We are registered as a Boy Scout troop - not a Venture Crew.
>
> What's your experience? Any pros or cons to having him go as one or the
> other?

As far as Philmont is concerned, an 18-20 year old can be listed on the
roster as either a youth member of the crew or as an adult member of the
crew.

In the specific situation you've described above where the crew has 8
members and 3 others are adults age 21 or over, you have no choice but to
list him as a youth member in order to maintain a crew which is majority
youth members. That would give the crew 5 youth members and 3 adult
members, a distribution which meets the Philmont guidelines.

I'm not going to get into the YP issues as there are varying opinions on
this. My advice is for the lead advisor to consult your Ranger to see
what Philmont wants you to do as far as YP (tenting, showers, etc.). Of
course, the young man could always register with a Venturing Crew too and
go to Philmont as a youth member as far as YP issues are concerned.

YiS,

-- 
Calvin H. Gray
Scoutmaster, Troop 405
Associate Advisor, Venturing Crew 405
Georgetown, Texas
I used to be an Owl (WM-62-2-98 @ Philmont)
http://www.troop405.org/
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