RE: [Philmont]: GPS

I still have an analog & digital phone because so many of the small mountain
communities still have analog. Example for my phone service there is a
digital tower in Salida almost 60 miles away, that I can pick up in
Leadville. Leadville is almost 3000 feet higher so I get the signal. but it
is not strong enough to make a call. I have to go to manual analog to call
out of Leadville Co. GPS enabled will be a while I am betting.

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of kbarley6
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: GPS

Jim
 
Colorado doesn't have 911 GPS yet? Thought that was mandated as the E911
program by 2005?
 
Most folks have GPS enabled phones. Not sure all 911 centers can translate,
but they should.
 
Here's who you should contact to press for the service. Seems really
important in your neck of the woods.
 
Colorado

Robert McGuire
Senior Policy Advisor
Office of the Governor
136 State Capital
Denver, CO 80203
P: (303) 866-6380
Robert.mcguire@state.co.us

Deborah M. Tellez, ENP
State-wide PUC 911 Task Force Chairman
Larimer Emergency Telephone Authority
Administrative Assistant
P.O. Box 273060
Fort Collins, CO 80527-3060
DMTELLEZ@aol.com

 
 
Kirk Barley
Virginia Beach

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of James H. Moss
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: GPS

I live in Colorado. Every day we get another story of a tourist using a cell
phone to call for help and because they did not know where they where, no
help was forth coming or drastically delayed. Our cell phone towers in the
mountains, are few and far between, service large areas, yet service may not
be available a hundred yards away. Don't call 911 at Philmont. 911 Dispatch
is going to call Philmont or a county SAR is going to respond. All you are
going to do by calling 911 is delay your response. Even if you know your
exact position (GPS) it does not mean that the person receiving the
information can interpret the information. Philmont maps, if you compare to
a USGS map use some different terms to identify some areas and all trails.
Philmont will know where you are and where you are supposed to be, the 911
operator will not.
 
Calling 911 at Philmont will cost a fortune, not resolve the problem
effectively or timely and probably not get you much of a response. Most
times in Colorado, you are on the phone for minutes being transferred from
dispatch to dispatch till the right dispatcher is found. Out here we
include the direct numbers in our phones if we think we need them when
traveling in the mountains.
 
Besides, caring a cell phone is just carrying a brick. Better to carry more
first aid get and knowledge then to rely on a cell phone. Granted calling
the wife from the top of a mountain might be fun, but do it from Pike's Peak
on your tour.
 
Jim Moss

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Tuck
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:11 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: GPS

As a Volunteer Firefighter and medical responder, I disagree. Is that is
the only way you can get help, by all means call it. It is correct to call
the Philmont number first. There are a lot of wilderness areas that cell
phones work. A cell phone calls the strongest tower that it has a signal
from. It is always important to know where you are at and let the
dispatcher that you contact know that. I know of a couple of cases (from
personal experience) that 911 was dialed from the center of a town and the
receiving cell tower was located in the next county. Philmont or not,
ALWAYS let the dispatcher know where you are at so that the appropiate
services can respond.. Be specific.

Robert Tuck

Warner Robins, Georgia

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of SIHIWI@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:10 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: GPS

In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:07:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
bill55@comcast.net writes:

The ability to "Call 911" is cold comfort when such aid can be hours away.

NEVER call 911 from Philmont. If you are so inclined to carry a cell phone,
you MUST call only the number they give you at Advisors coffee. 911 can be
captured by any number of cells, and will cause many more problems than
solutions. Just thought I would "nip this in the bud." Not even sure the
poster meant to give that impression. My 2 cents.

YIP X 7
1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2005
IWTGBTP (but probably won't be able) ;+(
Steve Unger
T-50, Fort Worth, Texas

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