RE: [Philmont]: Adviisor Age

From: <j.tavares@comcast.net>
Date: Wed Feb 08 2006 - 12:28:43 CST

One clarification, Philmont's Advisors must be 18 or over except for the Lead Advisor, who must be 21 or over.

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: abthomson@comcast.net
> Joe Tavares writes...
>  
> I just went through this again with one of our adult leaders after verifying it 
> with Fran (aka: she that knows everything about Philmont). Your boys can be 
> youths until they turn 21, regardless of Troop or Crew status (however they must 
> be registered as something (scout, scouter, crew member)).
>  
> Optionally, you can identify one as an Advisor, just as long as they are not the 
> LEAD Advisor, if you wish. You can only have 4 Advisors, regardless of age. You 
> must have a lead Advisor who is over 21. 
>  
>  
> Comments...
>  
> The above is usually phrased differently, but the end result is the same.
>  
> 1.)  A crew must have at least 2 Advisors, 1 of which must be over 21.
> 
> 2.)  A crew cannot have more than 4 Advisors over 21.
> 
> 3.)  All members of a crew must be registered members of the BSA.
>  
> As noted, crew members between the ages of 18 and 21 can either be youth members 
> of the crew or Advisors, and their youth / adult status in the Philmont crew can 
> be independent of their youth / adult status in their unit.
>  
> That either / or status, not to mention crew members who have 18th or 21st 
> birthdays while on the trail, can lead to some issues with Youth Protection 
> regarding both tenting and showering - another perennial thread on the List.
>  
> Also, Philmont's rules do not supersede the unit's program's rules - for 
> instance, a Philmont crew made up of Venturers MUST have 2 adults over 21, even 
> though Philmont requires only 1.
> 
> Al Thomson, Troop 236, 
> Schooley's Mountain, NJ 
> Treks 1999, 2001, 2003 
Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006

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Joe Tavares writes...

 

I just went through this again with one of our adult leaders after verifying it with Fran (aka: she that knows everything about Philmont). Your boys can be youths until they turn 21, regardless of Troop or Crew status (however they must be registered as something (scout, scouter, crew member)).

 

Optionally, you can identify one as an Advisor, just as long as they are not the LEAD Advisor, if you wish. You can only have 4 Advisors, regardless of age. You must have a lead Advisor who is over 21.

 

 

Comments...

 

The above is usually phrased differently, but the end result is the same.

 

1.)  A crew must have at least 2 Advisors, 1 of which must be over 21.

 

2.)  A crew cannot have more than 4 Advisors over 21.

 

3.)  All members of a crew must be registered members of the BSA.

 

As noted, crew members between the ages of 18 and 21 can either be youth members of the crew or Advisors, and their youth / adult status in the Philmont crew can be independent of their youth / adult status in their unit.

 

That either / or status, not to mention crew members who have 18th or 21st birthdays while on the trail, can lead to some issues with Youth Protection regarding both tenting and showering - another perennial thread on the List.

 

Also, Philmont's rules do not supersede the unit's program's rules - for instance, a Philmont crew made up of Venturers MUST have 2 adults over 21, even though Philmont requires only 1.

 

Al Thomson, Troop 236,

Schooley's Mountain, NJ

Treks 1999, 2001, 2003

Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006

 

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