Re: [Philmont]: 2006 Waiting List Status

The School calendar, Summer school, and other BIG school trips have
definitely made a dent in our troop summer activities. We used to have 2
summer camps back to back in AUG, right after summer school was over. There
was even a week left for a family trip in AUG, now our school year ends June
21st and starts again around AUG 25th. Summer school lets out the 2nd week
of AUG, and fall sports and band camp start the next week.

We now plan an early summer camp (1st semester summer school) and a late
summer camp (2nd semester). We don't even have a BIG high adventure
activity this summer since many of our high school age scouts will be going
to Europe with the high school band. WE'll do a short backpack in the
Sierras in AUG instead...........looking forward -- I hope -- to Philmont
2007.

At #62, I feel pretty good. I do know the feelings of frustration for those
in the #1100-1400 range, around the area of our waitlist numbers for the
past 2 years.

Kim Pigorsch
Outdoor Chairmun (sic)

www.troop681.com

San Diego, CA

>From: "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: 2006 Waiting List Status
>Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 02:37:30 -0500
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>An excellent insight. I think we forgot that the online lottery changed
>the paradigm, and the standing wisdom that the waiting list won't get past
>about 125 Crews on non-Jambo years no longer applies.
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>Another factor is the slowly but surely creeping total cost. Based on my
>Advisor tenure (9 treks starting 1989), the expense goes up about 50 bucks
>per attendee per year. In my case, that includes the inflation for all our
>Colorado pre-activities as well, but the Ranch fee has been creeping right
>along too. I told my parents that the estimate for our 2007 trip, if we
>make it (WL#147), will be around $1600. If I cut it to the bone, I could
>maybe get down to $1100 - $1200 (varying on airfares), but the fact remains
>that it's getting to be a pretty significant expense. I suspect a fair
>number of folks are getting priced out (but won't accept available
>camperships for whatever reason).
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>Yet another factor may be the various standards of learning being
>implemented across the country. I have no hard data to back this up, but
>(here in Virginia) I seem to have an increasing number of Scouts who are
>looking at summer school. We had to cancel one of our Troop High
>Adventures (a SCUBA trip) for lack of deposits (32 signed up on the
>interest forms; 6 put the money down), and several withdrawals from usually
>very committed Scouts came right after the fall semester grades arrived. I
>don't believe I have somehow suddenly ended up with a bunch of dumber kids!
>- but the bar has been raised, and some haven't adapted (yet).
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>So many factors may be at play here. But certainly the ease of the on-line
>versus telephone lottery systems looks to be one of the major ones.
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>- Dr. Bob
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>Jeffrey W. Knoll wrote:
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>>I'm guessing that the depth into the wait list is an effect of the online
>>sign-up. The ease of entering the lottery online is probably encouraging
>>units who are not totally committed to sign up, where in the past only the
>>very very committed would endure the phone-in process.
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>>-- Jeff
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Received on Sun Feb 12 09:26:19 2006