[philmont] Philmont Camp Shoes -- bells or some other noise maker at night?

Al,
      The 20 boots disappearing a year statistic didn't come from me.
Someone else added that statistic. I only made the point you should have a
backup incase one or both of your boots disappear.

Strother Hollingsworth
Troop 297
Hoffman Estates, IL

                                                                           
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Strother Hollingsworth started this thread...

What if one of your boot disappear during the night? What will you wear
the
next morning? Food for thought... :-)

Here is an interesting statistic I heard a couple of weeks ago. Each year
an average of 20 boots disappear from Philmont.

Curtis Jenkins followed up with a similar actual experience...

At night he would leave the ankle wrap on his boots under the dining fly.
One morning about half way through the trek, he got up and the brace was
gone. The crew looked everywhere in and around camp. After talking with
the staff, the only thing we could come up with was some animal liked the
salty brace and ran off with it.

And Mark Liechty continued...

Since it was earlier discussed that as many as 20 boots walk off on their
own each summer doesn't it make sense to create some kind of bell system or
staked down solution or ????? to keep this from happening.

I am not trying to be dense (it comes naturally) but it seems that this is
at least as much of a problem as the bears.

Just wondering aloud for the benefit of others. My feet smell way to bad
to
have any living thing want to get near them.

Jim Thompson "bit"...

wrt Boot storage ....We keep our boots in the vestibules of our tents
...neither boys, shoes or socks have been taken by critters ... this will,
no doubt, spur a debate of what goes inside the tents, what goes under the
tarp, what goes up in the bear bags ... etc ... so be it .. the list was
slowing down ...

wrt "as many as 20 boots walk off on their own each summer " so I know the
ranch loves statistics and counts everything, but this is a new one for me.

My comments...

wrt "an average of 20" boots disappearing each summer, that is also a new
one to me as well - Strother, who did you hear this from? With 20,000
trekkers each summer, that is 1 per thousand. Patriots' Path Council sends
almost 200 trekkers per year, and I have not heard of any problems. Guess
we are over due? I also wonder about boots disappearing and the standard
advice to store inhalers and similar items in your boots (covered with a
"smelly" sock).

wrt to Boot Storage, maybe our recommendation that both boots be kept in a
plastic bag overnight just outside of the tent (no vestibules on Philtents)
protects them from critters who steal only one?

wrt to this is at least as much of a problem as the bears, no it's not. If
the "problem" is limited to single boots, simply tying the laces together
will solve it. But as an engineer, I'd like more data on exactly what the
problem is (and to confirm there actually IS a problem) before trying to
solve it.

wrt to the list slowing down, TREKS books arrive in a month...batten down
the hatches!

- Al Thomson, Troop 236, Schooley's Mountain NJ
Treks 1999, 2001, and 2003
Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008?

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