[philmont] One time shot

Jim,
   
  Thank you for your thoughts on buying quality gear for Philmont. I think you are spot-on with the sentiment, although we'll never see every crew going with top of the line gear. Not everyone can buy a $300 down sleeping bag just so they can be still using it 40 years later. (I'm only using that as the example since you brought it up. It could be a backpack, tent or boots.) Believe me, no one enjoys spending money on gear more than me.
   
  Your point is well taken, but the goal of crews should be to be Thrifty, not necessarily frugal to a fault. Many Scouts going to Philmont are active participants in High Adventure anyway so they should be thinking "quality" vs. "inexpensive", but like anything, family budgets get in the way, they buy what they can or they borrow gear for the trip. Buying the best they can afford so they have it well into the future should be the goal.
   
  From the crew standpoint, any way to be Thrifty and save a few "crew" dollars on tent stakes, ground cloths, etc. isn't a bad thing.
   
  Pete Swiggum
  Green Bay, WI
  Philmont 2005
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Jim Moss <bsa.rec.law@gmail.com> wrote:
                Terry’s comments added to something I’ve been thinking about the list recently. A lot of these posts seem to point towards a onetime trip. Philmont has been classified as the pinnacle of Scouting and such as the end. It should not be. Like all of Scouting, Philmont should be one more step that is moving youth and adults along a part that includes understanding and appreciating the great outdoors.
   
  I still have and use the sleeping bag I bought for my Philmont trip….in 1967. I bought a really great down bag and it is still a great bag.
   
  If you approach Philmont and pass on to the youth in your charge the idea that Philmont should be done as cheaply as possible, I can’t help but think that you will be also be making the experience cheap. If you pass on that everything is a onetime use, it will be.
   
  I understand saving money, I do not understand thinking that everything I am taking to Philmont can only be used as Philmont or will only be used at Philmont. My last trip to Philmont I used gear that had been in the wilderness many times before and many time since.
   
  Make this a trip of a lifetime for you and the youth you work with, but don’t make it the only trip of a lifetime.
   
   
  Jim
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Received on Tue Feb 19 17:13:37 2008