[philmont] stoves

I'm fearful of re-igniting the thread on stoves, but just a statement of attestation. At our Council High Adventure Camp (Camp Tahosa) we have two programs that use white gas stoves (MSR Whisperlites). One is our summer backpacking program (Alpine Adventure -, week-long backpack trips in the Indian Peaks Wilderness, like Philmont only with not much program but better views) and one is our winter camping program (OKPIK). They both use the same stoves (there are about 20 of them). As you can guess, they get some hard use over the years and have never really failed us. To my personal knowledge, in the past five+ years since I have been involved in the programs, they have never had to replace a stove. Just an occasional wind shield and heat reflector. Maybe a new leather (now they are plastic) ring in the pump. At 12,000 feet and in 20 below zero, still always fire up for us. The maintenance is very low, they have high ease of use, and the field strippability/repair is awesome. And they re-emphasize the "low impact" nature of camping because no empty fuel canisters to fill up the landfill.
 
Like a few others on the list, I personally have a SVEA stove that is 30+ years old and still works like a charm. I had to oil the pressure spring in the cap one time about 10 years ago, other than that, never had ANY kind of problem with the stove. Just my 2 cents, your mileage will vary. YIS. Mike Conkey ('76, '02, '04 and '07)

To: philmont@troop47.comSubject: [philmont] stovesDate: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:58:31 -0700From: bsa.rec.law@gmail.com

Well said and you did a great job of keeping that raving idiot Jim Moss from unloading over the issue of canisters versus liquid fuel stoves!
 
Jim Moss
 

From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of vowelldk1@aol.comSent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:12 AMTo: philmont List MemberSubject: [philmont] stoves
 

Oh, no--you're going to set Jim Moss off again on the reuseable vs. recycleable issue. Let's just say that some of us agree to disagree.

Go with what you have and what you train on and what you feel comfortable with. Each type of fuel-stove combo has advantages and disadvantages. My crew has trained on the propane stoves, knows how to use them in cold weather and at altitude and doesn't want to a) shell out $$ for new stoves (these have never failed us, require minimal cleaning, and are 10 years old) and b) deal with soil, pack, or people contaminated with spilled fuel.Denise VowellCrew 574Philmont '04 and '08 (194 days and counting...)

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Do you guys prefer the Jet Boil propane type stoves or the little MSR white gas stoves.

randy harvison

fort worth, texas

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