[philmont] One time shot

Of course the key is to find a balance that works for you and your
circumstances. I'm advising a crew this coming summer, and I have 2
sons on the crew, so that means I'm paying out of pocket expenses on the
order of $5000 for two weeks in the wilderness, and that's before I buy
or upgrade a single piece of equipment, and doesn't include a souvenir
from ToTTP. If you live in CO, can drive to Raton, and aren't paying
for airfare or pre-trek activities then your budget is a little
different than that of someone in Alabama who doesn't live within 100
miles of a major airline hub, isn't on the Amtrak mainline, and can't
afford the time to drive cross country and back. Flying across country
and visiting Sandia Peak and going whitewater rafting are part of what
makes this the trip of a lifetime for these boys. Having a $300
sleeping bag that'll last 30 years isn't nearly as awe inspiring as
seeing a grand place that most haven't ever seen, and may not have a
chance to see again for a long time.

Rich Edmondson

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From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Moss
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:49 PM
To: philmont List Member
Subject: [philmont] One time shot

Terry's comments added to something I've been thinking about the list
recently. A lot of these posts seem to point towards a onetime trip.
Philmont has been classified as the pinnacle of Scouting and such as the
end. It should not be. Like all of Scouting, Philmont should be one more
step that is moving youth and adults along a part that includes
understanding and appreciating the great outdoors.

I still have and use the sleeping bag I bought for my Philmont
trip....in 1967. I bought a really great down bag and it is still a
great bag.

If you approach Philmont and pass on to the youth in your charge the
idea that Philmont should be done as cheaply as possible, I can't help
but think that you will be also be making the experience cheap. If you
pass on that everything is a onetime use, it will be.

I understand saving money, I do not understand thinking that everything
I am taking to Philmont can only be used as Philmont or will only be
used at Philmont. My last trip to Philmont I used gear that had been in
the wilderness many times before and many time since.

Make this a trip of a lifetime for you and the youth you work with, but
don't make it the only trip of a lifetime.

Jim

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