[philmont] Waiting List Expectations

Your wait list number is established at teh timeof the lottery. However the numbr in front of you is not the same. I can tell you Our Troop has decided to seek other High Adventure for 2009, (while the VC goes to Philmont who matched) So our wait list number (i think low 100) is not infront of anyone, as is probably the case for other crews. Its simply a question of how much patience you have and how quickly you can put together analternative.
 
Except for Jambo 2010, I wouldn't wait if I was over 150 for 2009.
 
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:30:46 -0500> From: drbob@troop111.org> To: philmont@troop47.com> Subject: [philmont] Waiting List Expectations> > I cannot speak on Double H. Re the waiting list, here are comments I > made on January 17th and 18th, slightly edited (the Ranch's comments > were sent to me on January 16th and 17th). In this case, the Crew was > #231 for 2009, so in similar circumstances to your own.> > > I went ahead and contacted the Ranch concerning the current waiting > list. Here are their responses, plus some comments of my own:> > 2008: (Ranch to) Bob: So far we've contacted 55 groups on the wait > list for 2008.> > 2007 (for 2009): (Ranch to) Bob: Based on previous years' > cancellation, we give the 1st 100 units on the wait list some hope - but > beyond that it is slim to none. There have been some years - like on > Jambo years - when we do go into the 200's but that isn't often. I > would recommend that anyone beyond 150 not hold back from making other > plans.> > My Comments: In my opinion, the 2007 (for 2009) comments above are > based on the pre-web-lottery. Last year, we were #147 and received our > slots on November 14th. My recollection, which I will not swear by, is > that the Ranch stopped calling people in late February or early March, > and were around #500 on the Wait List at that point. However, this is > "factual but not actual," because they were only calling the Crews who > had sent in the post-card giving very late dates to be called. Someone > I know, associated with the Ranch but not employed there last year, told > me that it was routine for the Ranch to be making 10 and 20 Crew jumps > on the waiting list in February and March, because most of the Crews > past about #150 told the Ranch not to bother at all, or not to bother > after a much earlier date.> > The expiration date on these comments expired when I hit the Send key; > you may take whatever comfort (or distress) you like from them.> > - Dr. Bob> > ...and the following clarifications were made on January 18th:> > Some additional comments of the current waiting list, and the realistic > possibilities. As I noted, we were #147 on the 2007 waiting list, and > got called on November 14th, 2006. For 2008, they just made #55 and > it's already past mid-January of 2008. That's a pretty glaring > difference. Obviously the list is going a lot slower this year. Who > knows why? - maybe there are fewer Crews doing frivolous signups on the > web, or maybe there were an unusually large number of Crews that were > auto-accepted under the 4-year waiting list exception (so fewer slots > available to start with). But regardless of the cause, #231 would > clearly be a long shot this year. Maybe #231 will be easier in 2009, > but of course there will be no way to know that until around > Thanksgiving, 2008.> > Best of Luck to You.> > - Dr. Bob> > > Bernhardt Bruce-RYXF50 wrote:> > Our troop is number 201 on the waiting list for Philmont in 2009. Does > > anyone have any insight into the odds of this number getting a slot with > > this number? Some of our troop leaders want to bag it and get an > > assured spot at Double-H. I would appreciate any comments comparing > > Philmont to Double-H. Is there been anyone who has recently attended > > both and would like to comment on the relative experience?> > Sincerely,> > Bruce Bernhardt> > Wauconda Troop 90> > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------> Scouting E-mail Discussion Lists @ usscouts.org> Listserv Commands at http://usscouts.org/lists/lc.asp> -------------------------------------------------------> Send listserv commands to: listserv@troop47.com> Send postings to: philmont@troop47.com> List FAQ found at: http://usscouts.org/lists/faq.asp> List Administrator: philmont_owner@troop47.com> -------------------------------------------------------> To Unsubscribe send text email to:> > To: listserv@troop47.com> Subject: unsubscribe> Body: unsubscribe philmont@troop47.com> -------------------------------------------------------> > As you gather around this virtual campfire with fellow> Scouts and Scouters, do your best to be trustworthy,> loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient,> cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.> -------------------------------------------------------> > > > > >
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