From: Kirk (kbarley6@home.com)
Date: Sun Jan 06 2002 - 19:55:22 CST
I've used Coleman X-treme (MAX) stoves for 3 years now as Troop and Crew
stoves. No problems. They are safer for new Scouts than white gas stoves.
Any fuel can be a problem, so I recommend adult supervision as outlined in
the Guide to Safe Scouting. I prefer any canister stove to a gasoline stove
for unsupervised use.
All seem to work great. I've use MSR and Peak stoves with great success.
The X-Treme seem to fit in between the safety of the Coleman two burner car
camping stove and these adult gasoline stoves. It is a light, sturdy, high
quality transition.
Kirk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Backpacking Stove
Stu,
The light weight stoves are not as stable. (ie: Pocket Rocket)
2nd, I have found no matter how you teach boys not to play with stuff, their
bound to throw the "empty" canisters in a fire. (Speaking clearly outside
of Philmont trips).
3rd and probably the biggest reason, they break a lot easier. As much as I
trust many of the boys, including my own son, they have a tendency to use
and abuse equipment. I prefer to use military-ruggedized equipment that
will last with anyone who has not quite developed the maturity of owning
good equipment and seeing others abuse it.
That may seem like a negative thing to say, but face it, they are young and
like to play, rough-house, screw around.... . Stuff happens.
Now would I buy one for my own personal usage and set aside my old one,
absolutely. (Depending on the trip)
But for scouting, I'll stick to the basic, tried and true equipment and let
individuals purchase their own expensive alternatives.
We have discussed how boots are a personal decision. That's because your
the only one using them. The stove will be used by the whole crew and not a
personal decision.
This whole thread started out with someone trying to make a decision before
spending money on a stove. For me, bottom line is whether the stove is for
the troop/crew or yourself. The decision for yourself is much more
difficult. Many more options, weight differences, and fuel concerns. For
the troop/crew the response has shown the use of the tried and true to be
the way to go, and I have to agree.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Allen" <allensr@frontiernet.net>
> Hi Randy. Can you expound upon this point a bit? I'm curious as to why
you
> wouldn't trust the scouts with this stove.
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