From: Allen Corzine (a_sly_fox@msn.com)
Date: Fri Jan 24 2003 - 09:49:33 CST
what are the requirements for "earning" a jacket or belt? I see a
distinction between an award and an articel of clothing? Am I wrong or
what?
By the way, they were out of my size belt when I was at PTC, I bought a
black ghost patch, after being advised at TOTT that it was not an award and
I proudly wear the Philmont Bull on my red scout jacket.
Not all worthwhile experiences and lessons at Philmont occur on the trail,
although I hope to enjoy some in the future with my son. Who knows?
Allen Corzine
PTC 2002
Wood Badge C 22 01
just a sly fox, and remember, my opinion and $ will buy coffee at the
trading post
>From: Txnscout@aol.com
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: "Award" versus "Patch"
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:15:39 EST
>
>I guess Dr. Bob and I are both "politically incorrect", as I have asked the
>same thing when I see an Philmont arrowhead, jacket or belt. I have found
>several adults and youth that did not "survive" a trek, but had the award.
>"What was your favorite camp?" usually narrows things down rather quickly.
>My father earned many arrowheads in his time, and a close friend of mine
>has
>22 of them. My son wears his OA trail crew arrowhead award with pride. I
>wear my Philmont belt every day. If you did not earn it, why on earth
>would
>you want to wear it? Just my two cents worth......
>
>Chas. Clifton
>Scoutmaster -Troop 11
>Port Neches, Texas
>Advisor 708G2001
>I used to a Bobwhite...SR-357, and then a Staffer...SR-439
>
>Remember : We are in this program for the boys.......let them lead
>
>In a message dated 1/23/2003 2:46:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>drbob@troop111.org writes:
>
>
> > Actually, BION, I have caught out both adults and Scouts wearing
> > Philmont Arrowheads they never earned. This seems most common at the
> > National Jamborees (not to say that it IS common there, but it
> > definitely occurs). I always strike up a conversation when I see an
> > Arrowhead (who could resist?) A minute's worth of questioning usually
> > makes the reality of the situation quite clear....
>
>
>
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