From: Steve Mac Intyre (smacintyre.asm@attglobal.net)
Date: Tue Jan 28 2003 - 20:35:37 CST
If he is over 295, they won't let him on the trail anyway. There is no way
he can think he is ready for this until he can say he has been there before.
He would not make the second day if he lasted that long.
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From: <mnep@att.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: [Philmont]: Advisor participation
> I want to give a big thank you to the list for the various topics
discussed
> over the last year as I work to get my troop ready for their Philmont Trek
> (June 21 - July 3). As I have never been to Philmont, nor been
backpacking,
> the advice has been valuable, in particular, with a discussion that I had
last
> night with one of the Dads that want to accompany the trip as an advisor,
but
> is seriously overweight and out of shape.
>
> I recommended to him that we not send in payment for his spot with the
rest in
> February, but rather wait and see if he is able to get into proper
physical
> condition before the trek date. That would save him from losing the trek
fee
> if I saw that he was not properly prepared and couldn't let him go. He
took it
> as a personal affront that I would even consider that he might not be in
shape
> by the time that the troop left for Philmont. The discussion went through
that
> he has missed all of the early shakedown hikes that we have had so far (he
> believes this is not his fault because he had to work), nor will he be
able to
> go on any in February, March, or April, again because of work.
> He is convinced that he will be in condition for Philmont, because he is
> walking on a treadmill for 1 - 2 miles per day, and this is a strenous
workout
> for him. He was upset that I would require him to prove that he would be
in
> shape before I would let him go. Because he is convinced that he will be
in
> shape, he expects me to have the same conviction, even if he does not
> participate in any of the crew preparations. I have had numerous
conversations
> with him encouraging him, inviting him to hikes, and telling him that he
needed
> to be serious about getting in shape, though I believe he has been relying
a
> bit too much on wishful thinking.
>
> He pretty much used all of the excuses that have been discussed on this
list in
> the past, so I was prepared for the discussion. It would have been easier
if
> he wasn't a nice guy. My biggest hope is that I have upset him enough to
> motivate him to step up his training and prove that he can get in shape.
> Though I have serious doubts that given the minimal progress in the last
12
> months.
>
> Just needed to get that off my chest by sharing with those who have helped
me
> from making a mistake by ignoring what could become an even stickier
situation.
>
> Paul Nepermann
> Troop 43 advisor
> Batavia, IL
>
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