From: Dr. Bob Klein (drbob@troop111.org)
Date: Fri Jan 17 2003 - 15:59:57 CST
Hey, what a cool email name and address!
FWIW, we had a great time at Miranda - even though we passed on the
"Mountain Baseball" and the camp staff didn't have a guitar...
Also FWIW, we had a great time at Sawmill, though I can see where some
folks probably did not. Here is the pertinent excerpt on the "campfire"
program from my 2002 diary:
<Start> After dinner, we did a quick camp breakdown and got dressed in
warm clothes for the program. Got down there on time at 8:00 [320], but
then sat on the "porch" til 8:25 (at which point we were considering
just leaving). Finally the program started with some "selected quotes"
from Mark Andersen and Rod Taylor, with various snide remarks (I'll
never tell!) Then the Scouts did pull-ups to rock music on a CD player,
all dedicated to girlfriends. The staff asked personal questions of
each Scout, and again offered snide comments on the answers. [Note -
This sounds dumb and insulting, but it really was weirdly fun, and no
one took it personal. But I could see where people could get upset; the
staff was walking a very thin line here, and had to hit just the right
note to make it work.] After a while, they got going on the Advisors,
starting with me. The staff was fascinated by the fact that I worked
for the DEA, so I was questioned a little more intensely than anyone
else. But I only got 7 pullups in before gassing out (first time I've
done pullups in many years). Later Hugh got 9 [Photo 321]. The best
Advisor was a DoD man; I think he got 19, and won a can of cake frosting
for his Crew (thereby making him an instant hero). After that, the
program broke up. We chatted with the staff for a few more minutes
(talking about dope, what else?), then we walked back up the hill by
flashlight. There was distant lightning to the east, but clearing skies
overhead - and we saw a satellite and one meteorite in about three
minutes of watching, but it was too cloudy yet to be worth trying for
too long. <END EXCERPT>
Comments: As I noted above, the Staff was walking a fine line with
their "campfire" program, and based on some of the comments from
yesterday and today, it is obvious that they crossed over that line on
at least a couple of occasions. It worked on our night, but apparently
not on some others.
However, it is worth pointing out that the scheduled night-time program
at Sawmill was - nada. So this was the Staff's effort to make something
out of nothing. Could they have come up with something better? Well,
clearly yes. But I do credit them for trying. That's probably worth
keeping in mind.
BTW, here's a photo of the sunrise at Sawmill, for those who are
wondering what all the fuss is about:
http://www.troop111.org/philmont-2002/pix/Phil2002-322.jpg
- Dr. Bob
Henry Buruel wrote:
> I'd have to agree with Jason. The feedback from the campers is
> extremely important to all of the Philmont Staff. Does anyone have any
> comments on the Miranda or Cypher's Mine camps from 2002? Just curious.
> Thanks!
> -n
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